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The 81-Year-Old Newspaper Article That Destroys The Redskins’ Justification For Their Name

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  1. TheRat

    TheRat The Silly Willy

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    http://thinkprogress.org/sports/201...-i-didnt-name-team-to-honor-native-americans/
  2. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    Just watched the Olbermann video. Wow, he was heated up about it. Glad all this is coming out now why the name was changed.
  3. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    Wasn't the "red" distinction first used by the natives themselves?
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  4. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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  5. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    What am I missing? Where does it prove they didn't name themselves the Redskins to honor Native Americans?

    They honored them with the Braves and then continued to honor them with the tweak to Redskins. Case closed. Go pretend to be a victim somewhere else while the men play some football.
  6. Sonny#9

    Sonny#9 Well-Known Member

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  7. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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  8. jrumann59

    jrumann59 Well-Known Member

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    If its KO opening his mouth I don't trust what he says to be 100% truthful. KO is a bitter individual now that is more wrapped up in keeping his name in the spotlight.
  9. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

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    That article didn't "destroy" anything lol...

    The story has always been that the field change/baseball association was the primary dictator in changing the name from "Braves" to "Redskins". The part about honoring Dietz is around #11 on the top 10 list of reasons the name Redskins shouldn't be seen as racist. In fact, the marketing ploy story is used more often in the debate as a refute of there being some racist reasoning in naming the team the Redskins.

    If you want to see an article that "destroys" an argument in this debate, read Ives Goddard's ridiculously thorough summation of the term Redskin, as it completely obliterates the often-mentioned origins stories of the term being rooted in scalping Native Americans for money and that "Redskin" has always been used as a derogatory name throughout this country's history. I mean it just decimates both of those cornerstones of the anti-Redskin movement. But nobody cares about that, it seems.
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  10. NIBGoldenchild

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    Why doesn't the Name Change camp get an independent group to do a more recent poll of Native Americans and how they feel about the name? I guess I'd be surprised they haven't yet, if it wasn't obvious they already knew the truth of the matter is most Native Americans don't agree the loudmouth minority and their media friends.
  11. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    I propose that they change their name to the Washington Indians.

    Cowboys and Indians.
  12. Sonny#9

    Sonny#9 Well-Known Member

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    No need for facts when dealing with a populist, emotional argument.
  13. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    If they haven't done a poll then how are you so sure of the answer?
  14. NIBGoldenchild

    NIBGoldenchild Well-Known Member

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    Because a poll was already done almost a decade ago, and the results showed 90% of Native Americans were not offended by the name.
  15. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    A lot can change in ten years and without knowing who took the poll or how many people were polled its meaningless.
  16. NIBGoldenchild

    NIBGoldenchild Well-Known Member

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    LOL! It's meaningless because it doesn't fit your agenda. If it said 90% of Native Americans were offended you wouldn't describe as meaningless. Look up the poll, a well-respected organization administered it. Regardless, this is why I said the Name Change whiners should just commission another poll to be done by yet another independent organization, but that hasn't happened yet and we all know why.
  17. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    You diminish others with some childish labeling, the only people with an agenda round here are Washington fans, the only people that can't see it are Washington fans. Link this amazing study that will magically change how people feel about this word or stop posting garbage passed off as fact. And don't act like the public conscience can't change over a decade, you just don't want to see because "woo sports!".
  18. NIBGoldenchild

    NIBGoldenchild Well-Known Member

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    Dude, it isn't just Skins fans defending the name. Some of your fellow Cowboys fans agree with us, do they have an agenda too?

    I've linked this here over a dozen times, somehow people on the other side of the argument continue to pretend to have never heard of it. LOL!

    http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycen...acceptable-while-9-percent-call-it-offensive/

    BTW, this poll isn't intended to change anyone's opinion, that's your job. Which you're obviously failing at. It was intended to find out if Native Americans found the term offensive and they overwhelmingly didn't. I welcome a more up-to-date poll, too bad those who claim NAs are offended don't.
  19. Risen Star

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    This is literally the dumbest league issue of my lifetime.

    In my opinion, of course.
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  20. MartinRamone

    MartinRamone Well-Known Member

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    Im not a Washington fan and i dont want or think they should change their name.
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