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The Big Ben Gardner Thread

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Teague31, May 10, 2014.

  1. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    DE Stanford

    Good pick in the 7th
     
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  2. guag

    guag Get some rest, Pam. You look tired.

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    Agreed.
     
  3. IAmLegend

    IAmLegend Well-Known Member

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    Pick 231 (great value. Slipped because of injury)

    6'4" 277 lbs.

    Welcome to Dallas.






     
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  4. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    If two of these five 7th rounders make any impact that would be a plus.
     
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  5. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    very happy with this pick!
     
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  6. AKATheRake

    AKATheRake Well-Known Member

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    Get me Quarles and Jeffcoat.

    This guy is LDE but very slow.
     
  7. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Brilliant pick. Almost makes up for Hitchens. Gardener is an athletic freak that totally flew under the radar thanks to a combine snub. I live athletic upside on late round guys.
     
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  8. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Good 10-yard split and very good ss, 3-cone and vert.

    Height: 6041
    Weight: 262
    40 Yrd Dash: 5.03
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.83
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.69
    225 Lb. Bench Reps:
    Vertical Jump: 39 1/2
    Broad Jump: 10'02"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.24
    3-Cone Drill: 6.98

    I guess that he is a SDE, but he is good as an inside rusher. Could bulk up a little and be a Nickel DT.
     
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  9. Teague31

    Teague31 Defender of the Star

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    Archer saying he will play DT for us
     
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  10. casmith07

    casmith07 Attorney-at-Zone

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    What a bum, can't believe it - another 7th rounder on a depth guy. We should be drafting All-Pros at this point in the draft, we have to do it now or never.

    Jerry sux.
     
  11. TheKey

    TheKey Faster than Felix

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    Fell to 7th round due to torn pec muscle
     
  12. sbark

    sbark Well-Known Member

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    athletic freak?........possible work toward 3 tech backup snaps along with some snaps at DE?
     
  13. guag

    guag Get some rest, Pam. You look tired.

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    Good, we need some DT help too. Hope we pick one up with these last picks.
     
  14. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    I don't think there's any doubt they want him at SDE. The time you have for him at his pro day 40 is also the slowest I've seen.
     
  15. FuzzyLumpkins

    FuzzyLumpkins The Boognish

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    Holy smokes he is athletic. His iron triangle, 3 cone and shuttle score are excellent for 260 lbs. Would like a better 10 yard split though.
     
  16. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    His vert and BJ would have been among the best at combine DEs
     
  17. IAmLegend

    IAmLegend Well-Known Member

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    Strengths:
    • Very physical
    • Great use of hands to shed blocks
    • Able to use hands and feet at same time
    • Can contribute some pass rush from the inside
    • Instinctive
    • Surprising burst
    • Extremely strong hands
    • Excellent motor
    • Strong for his size
    • Displays a mean streak
    • Scheme versatility
    • Intelligent


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    Weaknesses:
    • Durability, coming off a torn pectoral injury
    • Tweener defensive end/tackle
    • Lacks speed around the edge

    Summary: Ever since Jim Harbaugh took over Stanford, the Cardinal has featured a lot of tough physical players who control the line of scrimmage. Harbaugh recruited Gardner to Palo Alto from Mequon, Wisconsin because Gardner is a perfect fit for that style of play. At Stanford, Gardner was a nasty defender who spent the past three seasons as a bully up front.

    Gardner was playing really well for Stanford in 2013 before a torn pectoral muscle ended his season after eight games. Gardner going down was a huge loss for the Stanford defense, and he was never truly replaced. Gardner was providing a lot of disruption with some big plays. In his eight games, he recorded 19 tackles, 7.5 tackles for a loss, 4.5 sacks and a forced fumble. The stats don't illustrate it, but Gardner helped teammate Trent Murphy lead the nation in sacks.

    Gardner had a strong 2012 season with 49 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, five passes batted and a huge forced fumble - against Notre Dame. He had 35 tackles, 10 tackles for a loss and 4.5 sacks in 2011.

    To go along with his physicality, Gardner is very intelligent. He reads plays well and routinely gets in a position to help stuff runs. Gardner has more burst than one would think as a pass-rusher. He has excellent hands to shed linemen and cause disruption. Gardner also gives great effort and doesn't take plays off. He and Murphy formed a fabulous inside-outside tandem in the first half of the 2013 season for the Cardinal. Gardner played defensive end and tackle for Stanford.

    At the next level, Gardner would fit best as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 defense. He has the length and strength at the point of attack to occupy offensive tackles and free up edge-rushers. Gardner would be a tough run-defender against tackles with the ability to offer some pass rush. In a 4-3 defense, he could move around the line but would probably end up as a left defensive end taking on right tackles.
     
  18. thechosen1n2

    thechosen1n2 Well-Known Member

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    Poor mans Jared Allen.
     
  19. guag

    guag Get some rest, Pam. You look tired.

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    According to his NFL.com draft profile:

    He can play inside it seems, but probably can't get much bigger than his 260-ish weight.
     
  20. Woods

    Woods Well-Known Member

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    I think he may be a 3 tech for us
     

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