Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by NeonDeion21, Apr 23, 2012.
Poe can play end and nt in a 3-4.
I just don't see him being type of 3-4 DE that Rob Ryan would want. I think that it's a smaller (thinner) guy who's going to run a little faster.
There was a post up above that mentioned Poe was playing out of position in college as a DE and that contributed to his poor performance.
All I can say is you are wrong. Dude can definitely play the five technique.
I don't care how they game plan, scheme you in college....you should have dominated.
There wasn't ONE single game that he completely dominated and flashed his potential.
Yes he may turn out to be a great pro but right now chances are he will be somewhere closer to Mike Mammula.
He's not an end...for sure.
Poe's problem wasn't from a lack of effort...he would lose sight of the ball and lacked awareness at times didn't play with his hands and arms extended which prevented him from accumulating stats....he has the talent to be all pro he really does but if he doesn't have football awareness all the talent in the world won't do him any good...Teams just don't know what he is and whether they can coach him up
If the top three targets thrown around are gone (Barron, DeCastro and Cox), then I would roll the dice on him. Spencer's signing eliminates an OLB in the first and most of the other candidates have their warts anyway. Out of all of them, he is the only one that you can argue had some really poor coaching at the college level.
so now that there are clear comments completely contradicting what you said from his position coach and lombardi it is back to "dallas will not move ratliff to DE"
IMO, we as fans, just dont know enough and make ridiculous statements
i am sure our front office has done their due diligence on him
i will accept it either way, if they pick him or pass on him
i will just not have a cow like some others on this forum if we pick him because he has the talent to completely change our defense if he is properly coached
Our defense was terrible and the coaching was worse. The Memphis D averaged giving up at least 30 or more points a game.
What I have read is that Poe was the only player that people had to account for on that defense and that in large part they played him out of position at DE
Yeah, lets just bring out stupid Mike Mamula comments. These are two different kind of players, Mamula would be an OLB in the 3-4 and all the crap about Mamula being only a workout warrior is bunk because he didn't pan out. He had a great college career. 12 sacks as a junior and 17 sacks as a senior.(finishing with 4 sacks in his bowl game) Mamula had two seasons in the nfl where he had 8 sacks and 8 1/2 sacks, but he just wasn't big enough to play DE at 248 pounds. He should have been at OLB in a 3-4 like Ware.
The whole "Cowboy Way" and "right kind of guy" is pretty much bunk anyway. Every coach wants hard working players who don't get into trouble... Every coach. But if they don't have talent, it won't matter. You aren't winning games in the NFL with a bunch of Rudys out there. So at some point you have to compromise in some way... Just like Garrett has done with a guy like Ogletree.
As for Poe, who knows what to believe. But he's very talented and most people seem to believe he's a pretty decent person with a good enough work ethic, and those guys usually work out okay.
I think this guy would change our defense a lot. You platoon him with Rat at NT. We play a lot fronts. He'd get his share of snaps. Rat needs to be platooned more IMO.
I agree. Every coach wants the hard working guys who don't get into trouble. But some teams are more tolerable to "red flag" guys such as the Bengals and Lions.
Since Garrett became the HC in Dallas, he has seemed to weed out these guys from the team and from their draft board.
I'd rather have DeCastro or Barron who would get 800-1000 snaps rather than Poe would get a 300-400.
I'd rather have both but I certainly want Ratliff more rested. I suspect Poe would get more snaps than that. More like 50%. There's no reason not to put Rat and Poe on the field together at times. We play multiple fronts. They need to spell Spencer and Ware more often as well. We need talented depth in lots of places.
He would get snaps at both NT/DE and get way more than that. If you bothered researching at all he is projected to play more end as a rookie and be eased in at NT.
He can line up there for sure.
As to whether he can actually play any position, I think that's up for debate.