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The Deep Ball: 2011 vs. 2012

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by percyhoward, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Receptions (of Targets 20+ yards)
    2011
    Robinson 10 of 17
    Witten 8 of 12
    Bryant 7 of 19
    Austin 5 of 11
    Holley 2 of 2
    Ogletree 0 of 4

    2012
    Bryant 12 of 24
    Austin 4 of 19
    Ogletree 4 of 11
    Witten 2 of 11
    Harris 0 of 5
  2. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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  3. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    That tells me that Bryant was the only real succesful deep threat, Witten's injury really hurt him, and Miles just was nothing last year but a waste of space
  4. Funxva

    Funxva Inventor of the Whizzinator

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    Has anyone noticed that Tony can't wing it as deep with as much velocity as he did in 2011 as well? I remember a lot of under thrown balls. His release time is still top tier, but I noticed a bit of lack of zip on the deep balls a lot. I'm not saying he's noodle armed, but perhaps his injuries weren't fully healed in his torso?
  5. Crown Royal

    Crown Royal Insulin Beware

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    I remember hearing this a little, and then seeing an amazing BOMB to Ogletree that beat out all the coverage. I don't have a concern about his arm strength, but I don't think he had the ability to set his feet well last year.
  6. Crown Royal

    Crown Royal Insulin Beware

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    Bryant should have better numbers for 2012. With his height and athleticism, I'd rather see about 60% completion rate on the deep ball to him.

    Austin and Harris are horrible at going and getting the jump ball.
  7. Wezsh0T

    Wezsh0T Well-Known Member

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    I think having broken ribs might have something to do with this. Just a guess...

    Broken ribs and not having a very clean pocket to throw from...
  8. Red Dragon

    Red Dragon Well-Known Member

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    Not re-signing Robinson was a real mistake.
  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    You mean after he was released from the Jags? Or the year before, when he was ridiculous-expensive?
  10. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    Hummmmm......shocking
  11. percyhoward

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    And yet Dez was 6th in the NFL in deep receptions, 4th in yards (on deep receptions), 2nd in catch rate at 50%, and tied for 1st in TD.
  12. Funxva

    Funxva Inventor of the Whizzinator

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    I think some of you are missing my point. I think more so he was afraid to step into it sometimes and get injured/re-injured. I agree that he wasn't setting his feet as much. The point, also, is that with a cleaner pocket to step up into and him fully healed from broken rib and punctured lung, I think that we will have a chance to see some bombs. I remember one INT where the announcers called it basically akin to a punt, but the exact game escapes my mind at the moment. I remember thinking "Damn, is his torso still messed up?" I was just asking you all to confirm if he was under-throwing or not. So put the pitchforks and torches away, some of you, and take a deep breath. :D
  13. AMERICAS_FAN

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    Or perhaps he had so much more pressure to deal with throughout the season that it threw the deep ball off.
  14. AMERICAS_FAN

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    Well he did have minor surgery to remove a cyst in his back that he termed "annoying", so yes, it's quite lekely it affected him most on the deep balls. But the pressure he faced due to poor OL blocking I think was the main culprit.
  15. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff. Any way you have a breakdown of penalties drawn? I know Harris drew one late in that Browns game, and I think he may have drew another on a different deep ball. I remember he didn't catch many, but he put up fights.
  16. JsnSA

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    Assuming a healthy Romo, healthy Witten, healthy Austin (for the love of god), improved Bryant, improved Harris and the introduction of Williams the Cowboys should improve in the long ball area by leaps and bounds. Of course this also depends on the Oline playing like they did at the end of last season vs the start of the season.
  17. EchoBrain22

    EchoBrain22 beWaredizzle

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    Harris is still unproven, jump balls are't really part of his game. He is good at working the middle of the field and screens. But to say Miles is horrible at jump balls is a stretch. When he is healthy he is a beast. It sucks to see players like him fall from the graces of Cowboy fans when he has been great for us. Despite all his injuries last season he was still productive for us, he almost had 1000 yards. We just need him to stay on the field.




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  18. Lonestar94

    Lonestar94 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget the Miles Austin catch vs. Brandon Carr in his breakout game.
  19. percyhoward

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    When Ogletree assumed the 3rd WR position last season, he had not yet caught a pass thrown 20+ yards in his career.

    He had caught 25 passes before 2012, and 18 of those passes were thrown 10 yards or less.
  20. FLcowboy

    FLcowboy Hopeful this is the year Zone Supporter

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    Those were Austin clips that were from a bygone era. He didn't look like that last year.:(

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