The Evolution of Jerry Jones The Cowboys GM In The Red Garrett Era

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  1. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be one of the only posters on this board that thinks "it didn't happen this way".


    Jerry called Garrett a trainee and said we would benefit from "all of his in game mistakes" down the road.........................................................yea, it did happen like that.
    Jerry said it was "unfair" that Garrett would not let Callahan call the offense the way he wanted to call it............................................................yea, it did happen like that.
    Jerry said that Garrett was going to spend all his time of defense this year, even though he has never coached one down of defense..............yea, it did happen like that.

    Now if you want to pretend this was all taken out of context, that is your prerogative. However, I think many more posters will agree with my assessment than yours.
     
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  2. cml750

    cml750 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you 100%. Some fans always try to find the sunshine in the darkness and just ignore the reality that is just so blatantly obvious. If Garrett is fired next year they will jump right on the new coaches bandwagon and never miss a beat. In some ways I envy them. I wish I could just ignore the reality of the situation the Cowboys are in and always be happy but every time I try reality comes creeping back in. I have invested way too much time and emotion on this team to be satisfied with a poor coach who is learning on the job and still can't manage a game / clock after 3 1/2 years as a coach and a lifetime of being around football..
     
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  3. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    Yeah. I recall Jerry saying nice things about Callahan after Linehan was hired. That's got to be the reference.
     
  4. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Village Idiot

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    It seems like we just couldn't afford to pay any of these guys because we were so far above the salary cap to begin the offseason. This is like congratulating an alcoholic for giving up drinking, when he has really just polished off his stash of hooch.

    We are talking about a period of 3 years here. I guess it is a true statement, since 2009 was such a disaster, but 2012 is looking pretty weak.

    Again, we are talking about a small sample size here. 3 years. Didn't we just trade up to select Morris Claiborne #6 overall?

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    This is somewhat misleading, if not outright false. Although no one outside of Valley Ranch knows the truth, this is what we have seen:

    Offense: Garrett calling the plays, Garrett not calling the plays. Callahan calling the plays, Callahan not calling the plays. Garrett calling the plays, Garrett not calling the plays. Linehan calling the plays.

    Defense: Rob Ryan hired. Rob Ryan fired. Monte Kiffin hired. Monte Kiffin fired. Rod Marinelli hired.

    So we have ~3 offensive coordinators and 3 defensive coordinators in 3 years. Not exactly a model of consistency.
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    The only fact in this fluff piece of an article is that the team is significantly younger, but that doesn't mean anything by itself. In 2013, the top 5 youngest teams were the Rams, Browns, Bills, Seahawks, and Jaguars.
     
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  5. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    Please. :) Let's not use the opinions of upset fans as the barometer for what did or did not happen. I've pulled the training quotes to put them in context the last time this became chum for a complaint thread. The quotes applied to Jason's time in Dallas, and were put in the context of all coaches learning on the job before going on to do really good things in the league. I shouldn't have to point that out every time you want to trot out your own negative interpretation of what Jerry said.

    It's easy enough for you to support your context here in the age of the internet if you really care to. Otherwise, let's agree we find some basis for deciding who's right that relies on logic and a sound argument rather than on the hand-raising of a dozen disappointed teenagers on the internet.
     
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  6. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Gosh, that really seems like Jason is really being given control and Jerry is stepping away. :)

    The reality is that the drunk lunatic is still doing what he does, which is make crazy knee jerk micro manager reactions that make no sense from a logic football based point of view. You can totally see in gin stained finger prints all over each of the things listed in the above.
     
  7. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    He's not being mean spirited. He just couldnt remember what to call any poster who does not bash everything about the Cowboys. Member of the Jones Family. Fan of the Jones Family. Jones Apologist. Member of the Cowboys PR Dept.
     
  8. PA Cowboy Fan

    PA Cowboy Fan Well-Known Member

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    I do too. I used to live in that fantasy land. I actually remember rooting for Quincy Carter over Chad Hutchinson which was stupid because neither was going to take us anywhere. I think my faith in Jerry ended after Parcells left and he appointed Wade as coach. He wants credit for all the success then he has to take the blame for all the failure. That's my take on it anyway.
     
  9. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    You lost me with the first sentence 'one of the only posters' even though I'll credit you with the ambiguity of use.
     
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  10. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Some people are just looking for darkness.


    The demarco murray of posting styles
     
  11. Vanilla2

    Vanilla2 Well-Known Member

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    Has he not taken blame?

    One thing about Jerry is that he's been out there no matter the outcome.
     
  12. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    Jerry looks like he is talking. Garrett is listening and Stephen is....well ... Stephen.
     
  13. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    The BrainTrust.
     
  14. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    Im not a fan of Garrett. I think he's a mediocre coach who was given the reigns to power too early in his career. He really needs to not only coach, but he needs to learn to win. Some things are better now than before and I do somewhat agree were heading in the right direction. But we need to start winning. The only way for me to start respecting Garrett is for him to get this team back into Superbowl shape and get into the playoffs. He needs to be a factor for once during crunchtime and stop making dumb decisions with his playcalling. Thank god his not calling plays anymore. Because he was awful.

    Get us into the playoffs and I'll start believing. But for now I'll keep my optimism in check this season until I see us winning more.
     
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  15. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    It is called "revisionist history"
     
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  16. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    I know, so mean spirited
    Hate the meanies
    Just send them to meanie zone or something
     
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  17. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    I looked up the phrase 'garret groupie' on google and found this post
     
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  18. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    Or something. If I were you, I would push the envelope.
     
  19. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    I think the appropriate response here is "So?"

    I like Jason Garrett. I think that's been established. Thanks for pointing it out as if it were news to anybody.
     
  20. Bowdown27

    Bowdown27 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a fan of Jason coaching but he has drafted nicely. If he sucks it up as coach again I wouldn't be surprised if he moves up into the front office.
     

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