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The Giants Resurgence Is A Myth

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by beevomav, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    I'd rather win one lose one if it takes losing 6 in a row to go win 4 in a row.
    I am seriously doubting the sanity of anyone desiring to be in the Giants shoes.

    Dallas is .500 but with wins against each conference foe.
    They beat the Giants and that team is basically done with 5 weeks to go.

    The Giants fans are probably going to rue the recent wins.
    Drafting 12th and going 7-9 is rather pointless for a team who was 0-6.
    That's the crap we did when Garrett took over that prevented us the very top of the draft slot we needed.
  2. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    Forecast for the game looks like it could be below 30 degrees. I don't think the Cowboys have won many games in freezing temps over the last 5 years...it's not looking good
  3. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    We haven't? I'm having trouble recalling any one way or another. Any chance you remember some where weather worked against us?
  4. CowboyFan4Eva

    CowboyFan4Eva Active Member

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    I think its going to be a typical cowboys - giants game. High scoring, lots of turnovers, lots of Offensive.

    Do we win??? I have no idea........
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  5. dragon_mikal

    dragon_mikal Darth Jones strikes again! Zone Supporter

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    He can't. Apparently being a fan of this team now means moping about while whispering that the sky is falling and quivering in your boots whenever Eli Manning's name is mentioned.

    Why don't we all just collectively jump off a cliff and get it over with? It's like a damn funeral home in here.
  6. ShiningStar

    ShiningStar Well-Known Member

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    So what will you say if the Giants win? That they have gotten better, or we suck worse than the Giants? Because ill let you pump the sunshine but after the score, i dont want any spinning. Dallas lose, to me this article states that the Giants are not as good as their record. Okay, ill give the author that but if the Cowboys lose, they are worse than the Giants record is. So I hope the sunshiner pumpers are ready.

    As many people stated like myself many times before, You cant NOT predict these games, all records, stats, good vibrations go out the window once the ball is kicked. Thats my opinion. Ill be dying to hear the sunshine people after reality sinks in yet again.
  7. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    Just Stop the strawman arguments in order to try and defend a .500 mediocre dallas cowboys team.

    Nowhere did I say you have to lose all of those games before going 4 in a row. Nowhere would anyone, sanely, try to justify losing a bunch of games before winning 4 in a row.

    That is a weak argument.
  8. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Since when does expecting a tough game equate to Sunshine Pumping? I've seen nobody on this site in any of the threads this week predicting we stomp the Giants. This is going to be another close game for our hobbled team on defense, against a division opponent who always plays up for us. Nobody is pumping any sunshine. But the same token, nobody in the NFCE is very good right now, and that includes the Giants and the Eagles. It's not a foregone conclusion that either of those teams is going to even be in the equation 6 weeks from now.
  9. DABOYZ

    DABOYZ Active Member

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    Heck no. We are a solid .500 team. Win one lose one, lol.
  10. jterrell

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    Last I saw the stat we were 4-9 in games below 40 degrees over the last decade.
    That sounds bad but really isn't.
    Road teams are at about 40% historically regardless of weather.

    Cold weather hasn't helped us that's for sure.
    But by the same token we've won in NY versus the Giants 2 out of the last 3 trips.
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  11. TheCoolFan

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    All kickoff temps in the 40s or lower (and most of these games the temp dropped as the game went on)

    2012 at Washington - L
    2011 at NYG - L
    2009 at Washington - W
    2009 at NYG - L
    2009 at GB - L
    2008 at Pitt - L
    2008 vs. Baltimore (final TX Stadium game where that intense cold front moved in) - L
    2008 at Washington - W
  12. ShiningStar

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    I dont know how you see that since both the Eagles and Giants have turned it around as had Dallas, us going down and those two teams going up. Say what you want but your record dictates teh year, nothing else, as of right now both those teams are riding wins. We are riding depression. After next week, Eagles and Giants will be waving to us in their rear view mirrors. Both those organizations know you dont play for September. We are still reading the manual.

    Regardless of our opinons or stats, the records are what define the year. Everything else is talk or excuses. If you go 0-6 to start the year but end 10-6, you had a successful year, if you start 6-0 and go 6-10, well ill let you finish it.

    Dallas fights hard for mediocrity and i dont know why.
  13. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    The Cowboys have only played ONE game where the game time temperature was below 30 since 2008.

    In 2008, week 14 vs the Steelers we lost 20-13.

    From that point on we have not played anywhere that the game time temperature was below 30.

    Some times we played in our Dome and sometimes in other teams domes so those did not count as they were inside and if they had retractable roofs, the roofs were closed.

    In 2009 We played two games where the game time temp was 37 degrees (again above your 30 degree statement).

    We won one and lost one.

    Week 13 we lost 31-24 to the Giants
    Week 16 we won 17-0 over the Skins

    2012 we played two games where the temp was in the 30s (one was 38 and one was 37)

    Week 14 We won 20-19 over the Bengals
    Week 17 we lost 28-18 to the Skins

    So far there have been no games this year where it was 30 or less.

    So going back to 2008 we have only played in one game where it was 30 or less. That was in 2008 and we lost that game.

    Going back to 2008 we have played in 4 games where the temp was above 30 but below 40.
    We have won 2 of those games and lost 2 of those games (hey another .500 number for this team).
  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    Again, it's a long season. We'll see how the Giants and Eagles stack up when they next play a good team. I don't think this Giants team, for example, outperforms our Cowboys playing the same stretch of games we just played. Nor do I see us dropping any of the four games they just won if our positions were reversed. You're correct, obviously, that it's the won-loss record that determines the success of a season, but you have to keep in context that it's a won-loss record over an entire season, and not just over the easiest four-game stretch of one team's season. When it's all said and done, we'll see how good these NFCE teams really are, but looking at last week's loss in NO and projecting that same result for the next 6 weeks for Dallas, while looking at the Giants relative cake-walk this last month and thinking that's the way the rest of their season is going to go just doesn't make much sense.
  15. ShiningStar

    ShiningStar Well-Known Member

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    Doesnt seem to be hurting them. Dallas, thats another case.
  16. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I get what you're saying but cold weather is cold weather. If they struggle at 40 degrees then they'll struggle in the 30s too, freezing temps or not. It happens to most indoor teams - I highly doubt the Saints can win a road playoff game in the cold weather too (they lost at Chicago in 2006 and at Seattle in 2010)
  17. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    40's is not freezing. Cold is cold, Cold is not freezing.

    If you establish the goal posts, please don't move them to fit your argument.
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  18. jterrell

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    wow, just checked and look at the expected winds... 22 MPH.
  19. nake

    nake Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Hey, that's good news. Maybe one of Eli's Hail Marys will blow over where one of our safeties can intercept it. :)
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  20. RXP

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    That greatly increases the importance of the running game and stopping the run.

    Since we can't do neither and since their running game has steadied with Brown and Jacobs, it does not bode well for us. Especially with our best run stopper out.

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