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The REAL deal about Leinart and the draft (semi long)

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by k19, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. k19

    k19 Active Member

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    I'm a little confused on why all these reports are comming out about Leinart entering the supplemental draft

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    From what I heard in an interview with Gil Brandt that will never happen, Leinart missed the boat. If I remember correctly he said Leinart would not be eligible for the supplemental draft.

    After doing some research I have come to the same conclusion...

    The supplemental draft is for athletes who were not eligible for the normal draft or have special circumstances that allow them to apply. Since Leinart was eligible to declare and chose not to he is not eligible for the supplemental draft.

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    Here’s a bit of the guidelines from the 2004 draft fiasco involving Clarett, the guideline should be the same from year to year and I am researching earlier years requirements to verify.........

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    I'm also hearing people saying that SF would be able to take MW in the regular draft and would be Guaranteed the first shot at Leinart in the suplemental. Even if he did qualify, which in unlikely, that doesn’t guarantee anyone a chance at getting him...........

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  2. zagnut

    zagnut New Member

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    He could become eligible simply by signing with an agent, flunking out of school, being expelled from school, or being kicked off the team. All Leinart has to do is get himself some special circumstances.

    Tony Hollings (RB, Houston?), Mike Wahle (OL, Green Bay), and Jamal Williams (DT, San Diego) all went the Supplemental route within the last several years and were drafted with first day equivalent picks. Their special situations weren't all that unique. Hollings was academically ineligible. Wahle failed a steroids test and was declared ineligible. Williams, I don't remember any special issues.
  3. k19

    k19 Active Member

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    Dont think any of those things would change his eligability since he WAS eligable for the regular draft and chose not to apply, see above

  4. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the March 1st deadline is only for players not eligible for the regular draft. There may be some other timeline for guys that were eligible, but chose not to enter the regular draft. May be some leeway in the way the sentence is written.
  5. k19

    k19 Active Member

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    Exactly. Players who are let into suplemental drafts are ones who were not eligable for the regular draft and have been kicked out of school, academically ineligable, or whatnot as zag mentioned.

    With all I have read and heard I dont see any way he gets in before next years draft
  6. zagnut

    zagnut New Member

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    I don't believe the March 1st date you refer to is the deadline for the Supplemental draft. That deadline is usually in late June. In 2003 it was June 26th.

    The March 1st date may have been a special, court-ordered exemption due to the initial ruling of the Clarett case, which led to Mike Williams declaring. It is not a usual date on the NFL schedule and, due to the initial ruling being overturned, no longer applies. Those players (sophmores, freshmen, high school players) had to file a special eligibilty form, which is what the paragraph you quoted is referring to.

    Matt Leinart can get in by violating NCAA rules enough to have his eligibility revoked, and then filing the paperwork with the NFL.
  7. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    Which would be an ideal strategy for someone hoping to make a $15 million signing bonus. Try to screw up in the hopes that the league lets you in. Before you know it, you find yourself ineligible for any supplementary draft and suspended for all or part of your senior year at USC.

    If he takes the screwball route outlined above, teams would be foolish to waste a lot of money on him. He'd be a certifiable idiot.
  8. zagnut

    zagnut New Member

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    I agree, but signing with an agent would break NCAA rules without really damaging him. There are other things he could do to catch the NCAA's ire. It doesn't take a whole lot. The NCAA declared that Colorado WR ineligible because of his skiing contracts and Olympic training fundraising. Jeremy Bloom?

    I don't even think Leinart thinks about leaving seriously. He said something offhand and it's been blown way out of proportion.
  9. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of Bloom, I think Bill will draft him in the 7th round because he is a pretty good return guy. :D

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