Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by IAmLegend, May 27, 2013.
There was never a doubt that he'd declare.
How is RG3 a franchise killer? Shannahan butchered the entire injury situation with him. And hiring his under qualified kid to run the offense didn't help either.
If I was an NFL GM and needed a QB Manziel would be #2 on my list in this draft. Say what you want about his personality, but is anybody questioning his passion and desire to win and be the best? I hope not cause Johnny has it and in the right situation he can be great.
Pretty good class shaping up for the position.
Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Carr, Boyd, Morris, Mettenberger....to name a few
There you have it jerry go get him ... It's TIME
I know I'm a little excited but I hope lebron James who is a doe hard cowboy fan says a little something to Jerry to influence a Manziel pick come may
Brett Smith, McCarron, Fales, Boyd, Garrapolo, Murray...
Going to be interesting to see how many of these guys actually go in the 1st 4 rounds. And then not mention guys like Logan Thomas, Keith Price, and Connor Shaw who have a bunch of talent that just may need the proper coaching/system.
It would be kinda dumb for us not to take a QB somewhere really. Not in the 1st or 2nd but someone is going to fall and represent a value we shouldn't pass on at some point
I would do it if I were Dallas and he got anywhere close to our pick.
I am from the area and I know people close to the Redskins organization. Griffin has basically brought the franchise to its knees through his own arrogance and the added stupidity of Dan Snyder.
The personality makeup of Griffin re: Manziel is startlingly similar. Self-serving, egotistical, arrogant, "above" the rest of the team/coaching staff.
Didn't seem to be that way at Baylor....everybody had good things to say about him and what a good person he was. There also didn't seem to be a problem last year when the Redskins were winning. To me Shannahan seemed like he was the arrogant "above" the rest guy. I will agree that RG3 didn't handle media questions very well, but he's a 23 year old kid, someone in that organization should have been in his ear making sure he said the right things.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're 35+ though?
I like Johnny Manziel as a player but I don't want him at Dallas even if he did fall right into our laps. I can see Manziel goin inthe top 10 with Browns, Raiders, Vikings pulling the trigger.
Browns are obvious choice, but he won't make it past Minny at #8 imo.
I agree but sucks for him because Cleveland is the place where 1st rounders go to die..
Is this the top 10 draft order? Not sure he is a top 10 pick but 6 of 10 of the teams below could use a QB.
St. Louis (Washington)
Probably better for Manziel to come this year then be in the same draft as Mariota and Winston (assuming they declare) next year.
He's the RGIII of this draft, at least as far as hot goes.
Don't fall off that limb. Not even close to 35.
And search my posting history - I can be quoted as saying that Cam Newton is "the truth" for comparison's sake. He might have been doing some clownish things prior, but the organization never openly allowed or was a party to behavior or treatment that separated him from the rest of his teammates as being "above" or "better" than them.
Read the news, read the reports. It's a whole lot deeper than handling media questions.
I don't think this is fair. RG3 was damaged goods when he came out of Baylor. What many said would happen, happened and I can't see how that is the fault of Shannahan. What's more, Shannahan never wanted to draft RG3. That was Danny's call all the way. Shannahan wanted Tannehill. RG3 has not helped matters by saying some of the things he's said either.
I personally think Manziel would be terrible for the Cowboys. Putting his football skills aside, Manziel is going to be a guy who will be in the news a lot and not for all the right reasons. The Cowboys are a high profile franchise and their QB is one of the highest profile images in all of sports. The Press/Media would have a field day with Manziel. They would crucify him and it would not be pretty. I don't think that is what the Cowboys need. It would be a huge mistake for the Cowboys to draft Manziel, for that reason alone IMO.
It's a bad fit no matter how you look at it.
That and Manziel is basically like Cole Beasley playing QB. He's going to get folded in half in the NFL.
I'm torn about Manziel. On the one hand he is on the small side. On the other he isn't going to be the only NFL QB that isn't very tall.
He does have skills that you can't teach & his passion is evident. I think he's a brat but so are a lot of those guys.
I was of the opinion once that he would sit for a long time before his name got called but now he seems to be top 10 easily.
So many intangibles with him.