Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by blindzebra, Jul 6, 2014.
Tonight on AMC.
Been watching season 4 over...lots of little hints missed the first time about how close they all were all season without running into each other.
Yeah, I thought season 4 was the best season, after season 1.
I've felt like the show has been on the decline for awhile and the second half of season 4 was nearly rock bottom.
I get the feeling that they are trying to milk this show for every penny they can by squeezing a season or 2 extra out of it.
I thought the prison episodes the first half of season 4 were OK.
I thought the post-prison episodes were very good, with the Carol and the two girls episode being exceptional. The second best episode of the series IMO. But there were other good ones like the season finale and the Daryl/Beth focused episode.
I just felt that they could've done the entire season in about 3 episodes.
I did like the first half of season 4 and the episode with Carol and the two girls was a good one as well.
Thats pretty much the entire series, in a nutshell.
I think part of their problem is that they are so slow to move from one setting to another. That probably has to do with budget as much as anything, but that's the danger in building a show around a comic. They spent way too long at both the farm and the prison, and I think it just got dreary.
The second half of season 4 could very well have improved because of how far they now are away from the comic. But the first couple of episodes were so boring I didn't bother to watch yet lol
I've found that when the group is setup in one place for too long, things get stale, but when they're moving, i.e. season 1, last half of season 4, things pick up quite a bit.
I enjoyed season 4. I don't know if I'd compare it to season 1 but I thought it was pretty good.
I enjoyed seeing how they all regrouped and did what they could after they were all seperated from one another.
The Carol episode with the girls was a pretty damn good episode.
I also was a big fan of the moment when the group of thugs Darryl was running with caught up to Rick's group and you got to see Rick go beast mode to protect his son. That was one of the highlights of the season for me.
We take for granted the realities of their situation.
They want to stay in one place, they face death every moment on the road, so it would lack reality...I know sounds funny talking about a zombie show...for them to be constantly on the move. That is what Joe's group was about, moving, claiming and killing.
It leads to some slow parts but it is staying true to their search for "normalcy" in the new world.
As slow as the "Here we stay" episodes have been, they're necessary.
I think some want to think of this show as movie and each episode needs to have lots of bangs, crashes & booms in each episode to make it worthwhile.
Nor do I see the necessity to "hurry-up" the TV show so it's caught up with graphic novel #129 or whatever they're up to at this point.
Maybe we can talk out how the group is going to get out of Terminus.
Eugene is my guess...we will finally see he is more than a mullet.
With an assist from Carol and Tyresse bringing a walker herd with them.
I've read some wild *** guesses on another forum... stuff like:
-Making an explosive out of the powdered milk
-Digging through the floor (I'm a model RR guy, and that boxcar is steel under the wood flooring)
-Someone taking out a penny to unscrew the walls of the boxcar
You make a good point about the zombie herd. You obviously caught the "Terminus" sign that was by the RR tracks when Carol and Tyresse came across the zombie herd.
There were a lot of bullets thrown towards Ric & crew to "guide" them to the boxcar. If Tyresse and Carol were anywhere close to Terminus then they had to hear that racket. And why would the writers suddenly introduce a herd of zombies? Hmm.
And from what I've gleaned from Kirkman and others is that the boxcar lockup is going to be sorted out in episode 1. And I'm guessing early in episode 1.
I'm binge watching this no spoilers
Just tell me does Chris hardwick Make it to season 5
Based on some of the tidbits out there, the clip shown during the "Talking Dead" was key part of how the folks escape the box car.
Certainly marching a herd of Walkers through the unmanned front gate of Terminus would be great diversionary tactic.
Speaking of the comic...what is your thoughts on the possibility that they eventually use the Negan character and how much do you think they'll have to tone him down to put him into the show? That's one vile character.