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The Texas attitude and disposition.

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  1. CowboyFan4Eva

    CowboyFan4Eva Active Member

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    I've been here 2 years. Almost 3

    I love this site. It may be the most well run forum I've been too. And whoever started and the people who maintain it, That's kudos to you. Just......really good. From the technical aspect and all the options to thr philosophical , content, policy aspect to the moderators.

    I have been to many forums. Other football,forums. DC.com forums. Conspiracy forums. Political forums, car forums, Forums the "require" payment....... This is the best one I've been too. Maybe have something to do that I'm a Dallas fan, but it keeps me coming back.......very, very, very well done. And I am in IT development. I know how time consuming and difficulty that is to pull off.....

    I've never paid or donated a dime for any forum service. But, i think this one deserves it. And will donate in the future. Because I feel an obligation too.......i use it so much,


    Now. My question.

    I'm fro. The northeast. Spent time in California years. North Dakota and north carling. Family moving and jobs etc etc...

    But I'm fascinated about Texas. I've been a cowboys fan all my life. But never been to Tex's. Outside a few games in the old stadium, took about 20 30 pics of Tom Landry statue,,,,that that statue made its way to the new stadium? If not, that's BS.

    Okay my question.

    In a sentence or paragraph......"what does it mean to be a Texan?",
  2. MonsterD

    MonsterD Quota outta absentia

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    I don't know, I mean I live in suburbs and I can't say I know any country life of being one.
  3. CowboyFan4Eva

    CowboyFan4Eva Active Member

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    In my limited experience , Texas is more then "country". It's an attitude. More defined then any other area I've been too....
  4. TheCowboy

    TheCowboy The Teen

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    I'm in the same boat you are buddy. As soon as I finish my accounting degree I want to move to Dallas. Great job market too.
  5. DallasCowpoke

    DallasCowpoke Fierce Allegiance

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    For me, it means when I travel to 80% of the other 50 states or another country, and I pull on a pair of dress boots to wear with a business suit or formal wear. I'll likely be the only one in the room that's doing so, or knows the difference between a "walking heel" and a "slanted roper".

    The late O.A. "Bum" Phillips sums it up pretty well.
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    WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A TEXAN
    by Bum Phillips


    Dear Friends,

    Last year, I wrote a small piece about what it means to me to be a Texan. My friends know it means about damned near everything. Anyway, this fella asked me to reprint what I'd wrote and I didn't have it. So I set out to think about rewriting something. I considered writing about all the great things I love about Texas. There are way too many things to list. I can't even begin to do it justice.

    Lemme let you in on my short list.

    It starts with The Window at Big Bend, which in and of itself is proof of God. It goes to Lake Sam Rayburn where my Grandad taught me more about life than fishin, and enough about fishin to last a lifetime. I can talk about Tyler, and Longview, and Odessa and Cisco, and Abilene and Poteet and every place in between.

    Every little part of Texas feels special. Every person who ever flew the Lone Star thinks of Bandera or Victoria or Manor or wherever they call "home" as the best little part of the best state.

    So I got to thinkin about it, and here's what I really want to say.

    Last year, I talked about all the great places and great heroes who make Texas what it is. I talked about Willie and Waylon and Michael Dell and Michael DeBakey and my Dad and LBJ and Denton Cooley. I talked about everybody that came to mind. It took me sitting here tonight reading this stack of emails and thinkin about where I've been and what I've done since the last time I wrote on this occasion to remind me what it is about Texas that is really great.

    You see, this last month or so I finally went to Europe for the first time. I hadn't ever been, and didn't too much want to. But you know all my damned friends are always talking about "the time they went to Europe." So, I finally went. It was a hell of a trip to be sure. All they did when they saw me was say the same thing, before they'd ever met me. "Hey cowboy, we love Texas." I guess the hat tipped em off.

    But let me tell you what, they all came up with a smile on their faces. You know why? They knew for damned sure that I was gonna be nice to em. They knew it cause they knew I was from Texas. They knew something that hadn't even hit me. They knew Texans, even though they'd never met one.

    That's when it occurred to me. Do you know what is great about Texas? Do you know why when my friend Beverly and I were trekking across country to see 15 baseball games we got sick and had to come home after 8? Do you know whyevery time I cross the border I say, "Lord, please don't let me die in_____"? Do you know why children in Japan can look at a picture of the great State and know exactly what it is about the same time they can tell a rhombus from a trapezoid?

    I can tell you that right quick. You.

    The samespirit that made 186 men cross that line in the sand in San Antonio damned near 165 years ago is still in you today. Why else would my friend send me William Barrett Travis' plea for help in an email just a week ago, or why would Charles Stanfield ask me to reprint a Texas Independence column from a year ago? What would make my friend Elizabeth say, "I don't know if I can marry a man who doesn't love Texas like I do?" Why in the hell are 1,000 people coming to my house this weekend to celebrate a holiday for what usedto be a nation that is now a state?

    Because the spirit that made that nation is the spirit that burned in every person who founded this great place we call Texas, and they passed it on through blood or sweat to everyone of us.

    You see, that spirit that made Texas what it is is alive in all of us, even if we can't stand next to a cannon to prove it, and it's our responsibility to keep that fire burning. Every person who ever put a"Native Texan" or an "I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could" sticker on his car understands.

    Anyone who ever hung a map of Texas on their wall or flew a Lone Star flag on their porch knows what I mean. My Dad's buddy Bill has an old saying. He says that some people were forged of a hotter fire. Well, that's what it is to be Texan. To be forged of a hotter fire. To know that part of Colorado was Texas. That part of New Mexico was Texas. That part of Oklahoma was Texas. Yep. Talk all you want. Part of what you got was what we gave you. To look at a picture of Idaho or Istanbul and say, "what the Hell is that?" when you know that anyone in Idaho or Istanbul who sees a picture of Texas knows damned good and well what it is. It isn't the shape, it isn't the state, it's the state of mind.

    You're what makes Texas. The fact that you would take 15 minutes out of your day to read this, because that's what Texas means to you, that's what makes Texas what it is. The fact that when you see the guy in front of you litter you honk and think, "Sonofa*****. Littering on MY highway."

    When was the last time you went to a person's house in New York and you saw a big map of New York on their wall? That was never. When did you ever drive through Oklahoma and see their flag waving on four businesses in a row? Can you even tell me what the flag in Louisiana looks like? I damned sure can't. But I bet my *** you can't drive 20 minutes from your house and not see a business that has a big Texas flag as part of its logo. If you haven't done business with someone called AllTex something or Lone Star somebody or other, or Texas such and such, you hadn't lived here for too long.

    When you ask a man from New York what he is, he'll say a stockbroker, or an accountant, or an ad exec. When you ask a woman from California what she is, she'll tell you her last name or her major. Hell either of em might say "I'm a republican," or they might be a democrat. When you ask a Texan what they are, before they say, "I'm a Methodist," or "I'm a lawyer," or "I'm a Smith," they tell you they're a Texan.

    I got nothin against all those other places, and Lord knows they've probably got some fine folks, but in your gut you know it just like I do, Texas is just a little different.

    So tomorrow when you drive down the road and you see a person broken down on the side of the road, stop and help. When you are in a bar in California, buy a Californian a drink and tell him it's for Texas Independence Day. Remind the person in the cube next to you that he wouldn't be here enjoying this if it weren't for Sam Houston, and if he or she doesn't know the story, tell them.

    When William Barrettt Travis wrote in 1836 that he would never surrender and he would have Victory or Death, what he was really saying was that he and his men were forged of a hotter fire. They weren't your average everyday men. Well, that is what it means to be a Texan. It meant it then, and that's why it means it today. It means just what all those people North of the Red River accuse us of thinking it means. It means there's no mountain that we can't climb. It means that we can swim the Gulf in the winter. It means that Earl Campbell ran harder and Houston is bigger and Dallas is richer and Alpine is hotter and Stevie Ray was smoother and God vacations in Texas. It means that come Hell or high water, when the chips are down and the Good Lord is watching, we're Texans by damned, and just like in 1836, that counts for something.

    So for today at least, when your chance comes around, go out and prove it. It's true because we believe it's true. If you are sitting wondering what the Hell I'm talking about, this ain't for you. But if the first thing you are going to do when the Good Lord calls your number is find the men who sat in that tiny mission in San Antonio and shake their hands, then you're the reason I wrote this night, and this is for you.

    So until next time you hear from me, God Bless and Happy Texas Independence Day.
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  6. TheKey

    TheKey Faster than Felix

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    I am a third generation native Texan and let me just say this: people hate texas because Texans are generally arrogant jerks when they are anywhere but texas. don't be that person
  7. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    It means you come from the best damn state in the nation. I was born and raised in Texas, and I will once again return at some point. Heck, I'm flying out Feb. 14th to visit family. I told my wife that was the best Valentine's Day gift I have ever received. Since I'm flying alone, she didn't take that response very well. LOL Anywho, being a native Texan, you take pride in where you come from. It's about hard work, livin right, being humble (even though that's hard to do at times), and family values. There ain't no place like Texas. Don't matter which part you come from either. What other state can fly it's flag as high as the U.S. flag? The Republic of Texas is where's it's at.
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  8. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    Those that hate usually hate for the wrong reasons. There are jerks in every state. It's all in how you were raised.
  9. CowboyFan4Eva

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    And that's exactly what I'm picking up. And i like it. It's hot as hell.....but. I'm starting to love Texas.....

    Maybe a better word instead of love is.......respect.
  10. CowboyFan4Eva

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    It is a great job market. Not sure it's always been that way. But....right now....wow!!
  11. CowboyFan4Eva

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    I lived in the or theist and other places and met many native texans. And you're right to a certain degree. But, on,y on the subject of "being from Texas" Otherwise. Some of the best people I've ever know. Not all......but a lot. We don't get being so patriotic, especially about a state...... I think that's where the ......????? Ummmm? Comes from....
  12. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    My definition of a Texan..................

    You are either born here or moved to Texas before the age of 5. You can not move here when you are in your teens(and higher) and call yourself a Texan :)

    If you were born in Texas and moved away at any age, you are always a Texan :cool:

    Just playing, I don't know the true definition.
  13. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Crazy, people say the same thing about New Yorkers lol
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  14. Fletch

    Fletch To The Moon

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    I envy you! Stay! I'll get there as soon as I can!
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  15. BigStar

    BigStar Stop chasin Zone Supporter

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    That's a NE thing. Much more in your face (while dismissive?). Ran into that in Phili/AC when I was a regular. But agree on the general premise in that's all in how you're raised.
  16. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I honestly have no idea why we have so much state pride. The land itself isn't great or even interesting. The humid summer heat is tumultuous, our governments are woefully unprepared for snow and ice storms in the winter, and rainy spring days there's always the anxiety that 'yup, this could be the day a tornado wipes it all away'.

    ...maybe that's the reason? Maybe it's more of a badge of honor to live here among other people who can put up with it. Maybe that's why there's the courtesy and sense of community... or at least maybe that's what sparked it in the first place.

    There's just a mutual respect, I suppose.
  17. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    I think people assign all the things that are wrong with "the south" to Texas for some reason.
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  18. CowboyFan4Eva

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    Thats why i see too...
    its not without problems....but the majority is like this...
  19. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Vermont and Maine are in the northeast. It's not a northeast thing. It exists in Boston and Philly too but it's mostly a New York thing (the city, not the irrelevant upstate).
  20. theebs

    theebs Believe!!!!

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    Why is upstate irrelevant?

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