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The Way We Hear It — draft edition

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  1. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    The Way We Hear It — draft edition
    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft Extras/2009/wwhi042309.htm
    Aaron Curry: one certainty in uncertain top 10; Draft Audibles

    Nolan Nawrocki
    April 23, 2009


    Nolan Nawrocki will post his final mock draft by 11:30 a.m. EDT Saturday.

    With only days remaining before the draft, one NFL executive described this year’s draft as the most unpredictable he can remember being a part of. The frequency of calls is escalating between teams as pre-Draft Day trade scenarios are being explored. Much remains uncertain, including who will be picking in the top 10, with more talk increasing at the back end of the top 10.

    What has become increasingly clear, in a weak draft not featuring elite talent, however, is that NFL decision makers will have a tendency to play it safe.

    "You got four first-time GMs drafting in the top five," a longtime executive said. "The last thing you want to do is take too much risk and bust on your first pick. I think we'll see some surprises because (teams drafting in the top five) are going to be stuck, unable to trade out, and happy to hit a double. The one thing you don't want to do is swing for the fences and strike out."


    Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry

    The premium likely to be placed on safe drafting bodes extremely well for Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry, who, the way we hear it, will not escape the top five. Last year’s fifth overall pick, Glenn Dorsey, signed a five-year, $51 million contract with $23 million guaranteed. Based on the franchise salary tags, the QB position is the NFL’s highest-paid, with a $14.65 million tag, followed by cornerback ($9.96M), wide receiver ($9.88M), defensive end ($8.99M) and offensive line ($8.45M). The LB position falls sixth in line, which in recent years, has made it difficult for teams to justify drafting a linebacker very high.
    Giving a linebacker a six-year, $72 million contract with $34 million guaranteed could be a big pill to swallow for Chiefs GM Scott Pioli, who will be picking third. Of course, a premium is always placed on the QB position, and Curry will not warrant the same deal that the 2008 third overall pick, Falcons QB Matt Ryan, did a year ago given his position.

    Part of the reason that Seattle dealt OLB Julian Peterson to the Lions, team sources say, is because the franchise tag placed on OLB Leroy Hill was going to force the Seahawks to have far too much money invested in linebackers, making the selection of Curry more problematic from a fiscally responsible perspective. Yet, with a defensive-minded head coach (Jim Mora) taking charge, a physically intimidating linebacker who can re-establish more of a smashmouth identity has appealed strongly to the coaching staff.

    The Browns, who attempted to trade up into the top five three years ago to land LB A.J. Hawk but could not find a willing trade partner, still lack elite LB talent and place a premium on intelligence at the ILB position that Curry is projected to play in a “30” front, given the great demands of Eric Mangini’s complicated defense, which changes radically from week to week. Debate remains in the NFL scouting community regarding how well Curry will fit into a “30” front, but given Curry’s overall skill set, he is not expected to slip past the Browns.

    Draft Audibles

    “We like (Mississippi DT) Peria Jerry better than (Boston College DT) B.J. Raji. (Jerry) plays so hard all the time. He leaves everything on the field. You know what you are getting. … If you are going to draft a two-down player, he better be a dominant *** kicker. You better be getting Vince Wilfork or Jamal Williams — and look where those guys were drafted. Show me one game where those guys were put on their back like Raji is. All nose tackles get blocked, but how many get knocked on their *** and flat-backed two to three times a game? How many of those guys have a happy-go-lucky personality and are always smiling? The best defensive linemen I’ve seen were ornery — they did not want to talk to anyone.”

    “Some genius is going to get enthralled with (Purdue DT) Alex Magee’s workout numbers, but you show me the tape where he plays to them. He plays every other snap. He’s not a worker. He’s got a bad back. He’s got 'bust' written all over him.”

    “(Ole Miss OT) Michael Oher is too stiff, too top-heavy and too much of a waist bender for a player who everyone is describing as a great athlete.”

    “Don’t forget — Raheem Morris coached (QB) Josh Freeman at Kansas State for a year. He is familiar with him. (Tampa Bay) came close a few times to pulling off a trade for (Jay) Cutler. They signed (Byron) Leftwich, but if a quarterback falls to them, I can’t see them passing.”

    “(Ohio State WR Brian) Robiskie is a third-round talent. Now where he goes, it could be much sooner. But you can’t show me the tape where he plays like a first-rounder. He’s not quick enough. He does not separate.”

    “(Seahawks GM) Tim (Ruskell) and (vice president of player personnel) Ruston (Webster) were not at Mark Sanchez’s workout. Maybe they have seen him enough on the West Coast. Maybe they don’t want to play their hand. But they have spent a lot of time visiting the top quarterbacks. It’s an expensive smokescreen if that’s what it is.”

    “Some guys need to go away to college to have success — there is too much dragging them down if they stay at home. (Rutgers WR) Kenny Britt is one of those guys. Trouble was too quick to find him when he returned to his old neighborhood, but if you can keep him in the building, he can be controlled. The worst place he could go is somewhere close to home. … I’d be more interested in him if we were on the West Coast where he could start fresh.”
  2. BAT

    BAT Mr. Fixit

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    I hope Jerry and co. think real hard before trading up for him, or for any WR projected in the first.
  3. 28 Joker

    28 Joker 28 Joker

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    Robiski isn't as tough as Massaquoi.

    I read where a scout said that Robiski was primarily a numbers guy.

    Massaquoi works the middle and is on the uptick.

    4.47-4.52
  4. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    So much for the Robiskie love. If Nicks or Britt is there between 34-40. Otherwise Mike Thomas 4th.
  5. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    jerry said very firmly that under no circumstance would they trade into the first round;
  6. jchap2k

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    34-40 are all in the 2nd round :p
  7. newlander

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    I'm telling you guys this right now: stay AWAY from Robiskie. I saw him play at least ten times the last two seasons. Average WR on a very good team. Plain and simple, he just isn't explosive, doesn't run well after the catch and....well, is just not that good. He'll slide I think.........
  8. BigWillie

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    Two words -- Sammie Stroughter. :)
  9. cowboyjoe

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    thats why im not in love with robiskie, in big games to me, you just didnt see him come through; so to me, he is just another 3rd wr
  10. jterrell

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    I think the scout is wrong on Robiskie.

    I think he'll be a heck of a player.

    I'd agree he didn't max out at OSU but playing with the QBs OSU had can cause that to happen.

    He also played though some injuries and still offered great intangibles like blocking. I do not think he is anyone's lead Wr but as a #2 this guy is rock solid. He won't have the issues many WRs have with diva-ism and he is a smart kid making academic all-american.

    He was good enough to lead OSU two years in a row in production at WR and that school has put out some great WRs. The Buckeyes have been a Beanie Wells power run team and then a Terrelle Pryor make the magic happen team moreso than a traditional offense.

    He was good around the goal line with a number of those 7 to 12 yard TD catches on his resume. He was a standout on special teams during his tenure.

    And the guy had the best combine of any WR period. He was easily the best route runner and displayed the best hands.

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    from the cbs profile....
    And as a scouting director told me as we watched Robiskie at the Senior Bowl practices: "I haven't seen him let a pass into his pads yet. He just snatches everything."
  11. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    i agree-something isnt right with this guy.
  12. cowboyjoe

    cowboyjoe Well-Known Member

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    i agree newlander
  13. jchap2k

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    I agree as well. It seems like after he catches the ball the defender is ALWAYS there and ALWAYS makes the tackle. If its like that against normal college CBs, it will be way worse than that in the pros.

    How many times did he get tackled immediately after the catch in his highlight reels? Mind you, those videos are suppose to be highlights of his career. I think he has very good hands, but I just don't have much confidence in him against pro CBs.

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