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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by perrykemp, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    There is no specific blueprint for winning a Super Bowl. Look at the Ravens for the moment:

    • QB passed for less than 4000 yards
    • QB ended up with less than a 90 QB rating for the season (87.7)
    • Good not great running game -- Rice ended up with 1143 yards
    • No 1000 yard receivers or TEs
    • No 10 sack pass rushers
    • Only 13 interceptions as a team!
    • Slightly above average pass rush -- 37 sacks. Nothing special
    I can't help but thinking that great coaching and special teams were the biggest difference for the Ravens.

    Either way, its easy to be lulled into think a team needs 4000 yard passers, 40 TD+ passers, 1000+ WRs, TEs..... 10-20 sack guys.. and bushels of interceptions to win a Superbowl. The fact of that matter is those aren't mandatory.
  2. Rack Bauer

    Rack Bauer Federal Agent

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    They are a very well balanced team.

    I do think their Running game is a bit better than just "Good" though. Rice splits a lot of carries with Pierce (Pearce?).

    Also, Boldin may not have had a 1000 yard season, but he's as good as most any WR in the NFL when he's healthy.


    And that OL... man that OL is good.
  3. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    And they were 31st in penalties. Only the rams had more.

    Coaching makes a huge difference.
  4. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    I see great O-lines and D-lines on the 9ers and Ravens.
  5. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    Ravens were a mess of an OL until the playoffs. basically 1 switch turned everything around. Moving Oher to RT and McKinney to LT.
  6. BanditHiro

    BanditHiro Well-Known Member

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    coaching matters and they rallied around murder face mclewis announcement.
  7. gbrittain

    gbrittain Well-Known Member

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    The ravens also lost 4 of their last 5. I find that incredible. I had them dead in the water come playoff time.
  8. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Baltimore was ranked 11th in the NFL this season with 1901 yards rushing. They were in the top 3rd of the league but not top 10... good, not great.

    Their OL also gave up 38 sacks -- 13th worst in the NFL.

    I think the correct term for their 2012 performance, at least for the regular season, was "average".. nothing more.
  9. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    Trenches! The Ravens don't have any All-Pro or Pro Bowl cornerbacks but their front four made some big-time plays. Paul Kruger had 2 sacks, Arthur Jones had a sack, and Courtney Upshaw had a forced fumble. We didn't even see Suggs or Ngata have any flashy plays and they still won..that's how impressive they are up front.

    And of course their OLine has a bunch of big, strong guys.
  10. Rack Bauer

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    Hey I'm a cowboys fan... that looks "Great" compared to what our team did last year. :D
  11. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Their O-Line was very average in the regular season.

    Their D-Line was in the bottom half of the league in sacks

    Their D-Line was in the bottom half of the league is yards rushing allowed.

    At least for the regular season, their lines were "average". They did seem to turn it around, much like the 2011 Giants, in the playoffs however.
  12. hairic

    hairic Well-Known Member

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    No, passer rating is still strongly correlated.

    Baltimore postseason passer rating:

    Defense: 72.4 (best of 12 playoff teams)
    Offense: 114.7 (best of 12 playoff teams)
  13. Rack Bauer

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    THeir best 2 DL spent most of the season injured (Suggs, Ngata).
  14. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    True.

    I guess I'm just fascinated that the Ravens <numbers> are so nondescript.... I'm a sucker for NFL eye-popping stats and a team like the Ravens remind me how much coaching, special teams, and solid fundamentals really means to winning in the NFL.
  15. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Regular-season performance can't win you a Super Bowl, it can only you into the playoffs. Look at what the Ravens did once they got into the playoffs, and you'll understand why they won it all.
  16. perrykemp

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    I definitely agree with that. Very similar to the 2011 Giants who had, what, the 32nd ranked running game in the NFL and a very poorly rated defense.

    Once they got into the regular season they put all that behind them.
  17. Rack Bauer

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    I think the biggest reason they won in the regular season and playoffs is turnovers. THey didn't commit many (2nd best in the league) and they created quite a bit of them (11th in the NFL).

    Not sure what the playoffs looked like but I know Flacco didn't throw any picks (Rice put it on the ground way too much though).
  18. KB1122

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    Exception.

    By the end of the decade, there will be about 6 quarterbacks who are Hall of Fame candidates and they will account for about 8 or 9 of the championships. Just like every decade.
  19. punchnjudy

    punchnjudy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, if Flacco had thrown a pick against Denver or SF, it could have very well been the difference in the game. I kept waiting for him to crack, but he never did.
  20. Wahoo Cowboy

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    Bingo!

    He's never lit it up in the regular season, but since 2010, Joe Flacco has one playoff game with a passer rating under 95 (@PIT, 2010). This playoffs, it was never below 106.3 with zero interceptions.

    This isn't meant to be a commentary on the Cowboys. But the biggest difference between the Ravens and the teams they faced was QB play.

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