This quote about Jeff Ireland surprised me

Discussion in 'NFL Zone' started by Randy White, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. Randy White

    Randy White Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    This quote surprised me because there was alot of support for Jeff when he was with the Cowboys.

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    I wonder how much truth there is in that statement ? I mean, he's done a near horrendous job down here with the Dullphins, unlike his tenure in Dallas, so did the Cowboys scouts " covered up " alot of his possible mistakes ?
  2. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    Or maybe, just maybe, the Jerry Jones support line and team aren't as bad as many fans projected over the past ten years as well. He actually circles wagons when enemy approaches, and does so with haste and direction.
  3. Randy White

    Randy White Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Oh, come on now.. stop being such a homer and posting such common sense stuff.. You're ruining alot of people's agendas.
  4. dogunwo

    dogunwo Waves that make you sea-sick Zone Supporter

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    You never know what kind of support system he has there. He might be restricted to what kind of moves he can make, like a puppet GM. Wasn't it discovered that the, real mastermind here was Tom Ciskowski anyway?
  5. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    I dunno why Crowder would criticize Jeff.

    I guess because he hired Sparano?

    Or maybe because the team cut Crowder and he's out of a job?

    Just saw something where Sparano sold his house just recently.
  6. Mash

    Mash Active Member

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    Big Bill wasnt help either down there IMHO

    Took another owners money for retirement.

    Sorry ........just not a fan of Bill
  7. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    well of course his successes mean nothing.

    He got the Dolphins back to the playoffs; in the greatest one year turn around in NFL history. Now clearly some mistakes were made; and not having a good QB really makes a huge difference. Had the fins had a Decent QB, say a BLedsoe that was with BUffalo, and the one we had early here, there record would not be nearly as bad. ANd they had some bad luck with injuries as well.

    Now it does seem clear that Ireland was not as good as thought; but TC has blown a few here as well.
  8. JPM

    JPM Well-Known Member

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    That's crazy talk CC !!!
  9. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    Bill was great at getting the most out of mediocre players, he would take average players and coach them up into a wildcard team. His change in philosophy when he's first hired gives the team a new energy and so the team responds likewise.

    In Dallas with Q Carter and in Miami the first year were his best year on those teams, after that the teams went down hill.
  10. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    he didn't make the final say here, where I guess in Miami he does. I don't think he's done a horrendous job. Miami is 0-6, not because they have no talent, it because they have no QB and the coach has no authority after the owner tried to replace him with Harbaugh.

    He's done great with drafting defensive players except Vontae Davis. Really well with the D-Line. Trading for Brandon Marshall was a mistake, but it was a mistake several other teams would've done, especially for 2 #2s.

    If they were to somehow get Andrew Luck and maybe another WR, I could see them going 8-8 or so the next year and ofcourse everyone would say how great Luck is, when actuality the team isn't devoid of talent like their record indicates
  11. Hostile

    Hostile The Duke

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    Also, Ireland needs time to build. Miami was a mess.
  12. gmoney112

    gmoney112 Well-Known Member

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    He always reminded me of a smug dbag.
  13. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    Ireland seemed to curry favor with Parcells when he was right about Jacob Rogers and spoke up about it. Still, Ireland was big on Stanback and it goes to show that he wasn't above having 'pet cats.'

    I agree, Ireland needs more time to rebuild. They were far worse than they are now when they took over. They just kinda got some things to work for them the 1st year and then everybody had these expectations despite being just removed from a 1-15 season.


    JIGGYFLY Well-Known Member

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    Miami has missed on just about every 2nd and 3rd round pick since Ireland has been there.

    There is less than 50% of the players drafted since he got there still on the roster.

    He has been terrible as a GM this a quick turnaround league and the team has gotten progressively worst not better, so why would you give him more time to build?
  15. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    Nice to know that other team's players are understanding how good Dez is.
  16. Sam I Am

    Sam I Am Unfriendly and Aloof!

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    Crowder likes Sparano. He said as much in the article. He said he just can't do it alone. Said that Jeff won't put a useful team on the field.
  17. Boom

    Boom Just Dez It

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    I'm shocked Ireland didn't draft him, after his interview with Dez went so well.
  18. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    He wanted to draft Dez but it just didn't work out.

    However, I think he did hire Dez's mom after the draft.
  19. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    It's been obvious that he doesn't know what he's doing from the way he picked up so many of our lousy scraps, signed these guys like Marshall and Reggie Bush, and drafted so horribly. The guy nailed it when he said he only got that job because he sucked up to Bill the most here.

    And to think, I still remember a post or two from people saying they were going to root for the Dolphins to make Jerry look stupid for letting these people go.
  20. burmafrd

    burmafrd Benched

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    And just how good in the last 4 years have out 2nd and 3rd rd picks been? Not a whole lot better. And Dez is the only 1st we have taken that MIGHT be as good at his position that Jake Long is at his.

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