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Tiger Woods wins 4th title of year

Discussion in 'Sports Zone' started by WoodysGirl, May 12, 2013.

  1. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Sure, there have been things said about it. I heard the story brought up on the radio throughout the past couple of days and saw several accounts of it on the net. At best, he did nothing wrong. At worst, it is inconclusive that he did anything wrong.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-...improper-drop-en-route-players-124525467.html
  2. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    In your opinion, not in mine. The guy who claimed that nothing was wrong totally backtracked on his original statements. Only later did he say that nothing was wrong. Originally, he said that it was wrong. The technology is there to actually find out if something was incorrect there but the PGA will not use it. The want the players to police themselves, which is all well and good but when it's obvious, which I believe this to be, that creates a problem. Heck, even Notah Begay, in an interview I heard here on the local ESPN affiliate, The Locker Room, said that it probably should have been looked at more closely.

    What's done is done but I think that was clearly a bad call.
  3. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Two other marshals defend Tiger

    Sam Gardner
    Updated May 15, 2013 2:14 PM ET


    Just when you thought the Tiger Woods-Sergio Garcia Players Championship drama had reached its apex, another twist is keeping Swing-gate in the news.

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    On Monday, Sports Illustrated talked to two marshals who essentially called Woods a liar for asserting that he had been given the OK to pull from his bag Saturday on the second hole of the third round. Garcia stated that the distraction it caused led to his bad second shot.
    “Nothing was said to us, and we certainly said nothing to him,” John North, the chief marshal for the first three holes, told the site. “I was disappointed to hear him make those remarks. We’re there to help the players and enhance the experience of the fans. He was saying what was good for him. It lacked character.”
    However, on Tuesday, two other marshals came to Woods’ defense, saying there had been communication between the world’s No. 1 golfer and marshals and that Woods, who first pulled from his bag and was then told that Garcia had hit, was only mistaken about the sequence of events.
    Marshals Brian Nedrich and Lance Paczkowski told the Florida Times-Union that they were both within 10 to 12 yards of Woods at the time of the incident.
    “It is not true and definitely unfair to Tiger,” Nedrich told the paper. “That’s because I was the one Tiger heard say that Sergio had hit.”
    As for how the event in question went down, here’s how the Times-Union says it happened:

    Nedrich, who said he could barely see Garcia, got a glimpse of him swinging, then saw the ball in the air. When fans behind Woods began to stir, Paczkowski, his view of Garcia blocked by bushes, tried to quiet them and said, “the other player (Garcia) hasn’t hit yet.”
    “That’s when I yelled back at Lance, ‘No . . . he’s already hit,’ ” Nedrich said. “Tiger had already taken his club, but we did tell him that Sergio had hit.”
    Nedrich said he didn't blame Woods for being mistaken about the sequence of events.
    “There was a lot going on, as usual, when Tiger plays,” Nedrich said. “Then, he’s trying to have the concentration he needs to win a tournament. It’s easy to get small details out of whack when things happen so fast. It was an unfortunate incident, and I don’t think either player is to blame.”
    So, to recap: Tiger Woods was told that Sergio Garcia had hit, but it was not before Woods pulled from his bag. So he’s more a misrememberer than he is a liar — which probably doesn’t clear up the controversy, but at least somewhat quells the latest attack on his integrity.
    “Tiger Woods did not lie,” Paczkowski told the Times-Union. “Was there a small mistake in what he remembered? Yes. But I don't think it rises to the level of lying.”
    Added Nedrich: “It’s disingenuous to suggest that Tiger is a liar because he got a minor detail wrong.”
  4. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    And if anybody watched that tourney and thought Tiger was happy that he had hit to the center left of the 17th green and had to settle for a tough par, you're crazy. He was not satified with that attempt at 17. He wanted a closer birdie attempt, but he mi it.

    Sergio choked on 17, twice. And again on 18. And he choked on Saturday. Just like he's choked his entire career. He's not mentally strong enough to ever walk where Tiger has 14 times and counting.
  5. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    really? you can't type in mis.hit without it being edited automatically? wow.
  6. Thatkidbob

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    If that's the case I wish we had him playing RG.
  7. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Actually a lot of the players and caddies like Tiger, especially in comparison to Sergio. They also realize what Tiger has done for the game and for the purses that the tournaments bring in. He has elevated the game and in turn made it possible for them to have amazingly lucrative careers.
  8. WV Cowboy

    WV Cowboy Waitin' on the 6th

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    My niece has always been a huge Sergio Garcia fan, and she called it.

    She told me about 5-10 minutes before it happened that he would do something stupid and blow it.

    We were all watching together at Mom's, we were there for Mothers Day.

    And sure enough ...
  9. da_whiz_kid

    da_whiz_kid Active Member

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    I've met Tiger twice. Really nice guy. Great golfer.
    :cool:
  10. CanadianCowboysFan

    CanadianCowboysFan Lightning Rod

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    Are you a female that works at Denny's?
  11. da_whiz_kid

    da_whiz_kid Active Member

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    :laugh2:
  12. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    don't break your leg getting off that high horse. We get it, you worship the ground Tiger walks on, we've all seen your posts on him before. Tiger missed his shot on 17 by 15 yards, Sergio missed his by 1 yard, that's the way it goes. I'm still trying to figure out what US Open Phil was leading by two strokes on18 and put his drive in the water. What year was that?
  13. jimmy40

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    wonder how that conversation went with his playing partner, who ever the hell that was. Tiger" it crossed the hazard right here, right?" Other guy "yes sir Tiger sir".
  14. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    So much jealousy over Tiger's greatness. I may be off by a percentage point or two, but during the tourney they were saying how Tiger has won 27.3% of the PGA tournaments he's entered. 27.3%! Freddy Couples was recently inducted into the PGA HOF and he's won 2% of the tournies he's entered. On top of that, Tiger's finished in the Top 10 of 84% of the tournaments he's played in. I don't think some people realize how great he really is. On a bad day he is still a phenomenal talent. Not to mention his flare for great performances on the biggest of stages. And wasn't this latest win in his 300th match? Something he did in his 100th and 200th match as well.

    I just hope some people take the time to appreciate what they have the opportunity to witness before it's gone. He's a once in a lifetime player.
  15. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    How stupid was Phil's shot off of pine straw around a tree over Rae's creek? Smart play was just to get it out in the fairway on a par five. Well that stupid shot won him the Masters and is shown on replays as one of the greatest shots in the history of the Masters. . How stupid was Bubba's shot out of the woods last year at the Masters? Well that stupid shot won him the Masters and is shown on replays as one of the greatest shots in the history of the Masters. If Sergio's shot goes one more yard and he birdies the hole and wins it's one of the greatest shots in Players history but it didn't so it was stupid. What happened when Tiger played safe on 14 I think it was with the 5 wood? and choked it into the water and double bogeyed the hole? Safe isn't always the best play.
  16. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    It all depends who you're playing against. If you're up against Sergio, you can be conservative and just watch him choke it away like he always does.

    And to Tiger's credit, the shot into 18 was an exclamation point on his tournament. Not conservative at all. A dart right at the flag, drawn back in towards the water.
  17. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Jack guy and I admit I don't want Tiger to break his major's record. Tiger must be a twice in a lifetime player since I've seen him and Jack in my lifetime.
  18. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    stupid shot, should have played safe.
  19. CowboyDan

    CowboyDan Anger is a Gift

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    Jack is my all time favorite, too, even though I only saw the tale end of his career. It sure would be fun to watch them square off in their primes, but even Lee Trevino will tell you that Jack had no sand game. Tiger's got it all in spades. I think it's advantage Tiger if you're comparing primes. (even if you give them the same equipment)
  20. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    Tigers unfreaking believably good but well we'll never know who would be better. One things for sure, Jack wouldn't choke because of Tiger, hell Jack had to go up against Arnold and fans absolutely hated Jack when he started beating him.

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