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Time running out for McCain - Pundits

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  1. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    Time running out for McCain to turn election tide: pundits

    by Alain Jean-Robert1 hour, 57 minutes ago

    After a lackluster debate, John McCain now has less than four weeks to turn the race for the White House around, as observers on Wednesday began to wonder aloud whether the Republican who once dubbed himself the comeback kid can win.

    One day after McCain faced off in the second of three debates against Barack Obama, political observers said the exchange failed to up-end the front-runner status of his Democratic rival, as the contest ticks down to the November 4 vote.

    "Despite John McCain's best efforts, the Arizona senator didn't knock Mr Obama from his cool evasion or even do much to rebut the Democrat's talking points," the conservative Wall Street Journal wrote the morning after the debate.

    "This isn't enough to change the dynamics of the race."

    Snap polls by US television networks awarded the debate -- the second of a trio of presidential clashes -- to Obama.

    Democrats now are optimistic that -- with two of three rhetorical contests over and both won by Obama according to opinion polls -- the Illinois senator is an increasingly good bet to clinch the November 4 election.

    "The race is over," crowed Howard Wolfson, a former spokesman for Senator Hillary Clinton, one of several Democratic rivals vanquished by Obama en route to the sealing the nomination.

    Longtime Washington pundit Roger Simon pronounced neither McCain nor Obama the winner, saying that, from his vantage point, both failed in "delivering a knockout punch."

    "The trouble for John McCain, however, is that he needed one," wrote Simon, a writer for The Politico daily newspaper.

    The day after Tuesday's outing, Obama continued to sound an upbeat note on the stump in the midwestern state of Indiana, promising Americans "better days ahead" despite plummeting global stock markets, rising job losses and dark clouds of economic gloom.

    McCain appeared at a campaign rally planned along with running mate Sarah Palin in the battleground state of Pennsylvania.

    And Obama's running mate Joe Biden accused his Republican rivals of "injecting fear and loathing" into the campaign, including stoking rumors that Obama has terrorist ties.

    Speaking on CBS television, Senator Biden dismissed as "malarkey" Republican allegations of unsavory ties between Obama and William Ayers, former leader of "The Weathermen," a domestic terror group. He was reacting to Palin's comments last week that Obama had been "pallin" around with terrorists."

    Trailing in most national polls, the Republican White House hopeful went to Tuesday's debate armed with an ambitious, 300-billion dollar surprise plan to buy up the bad American mortgages that helped tip the global economy into crisis.

    The gambit however failed to convince voters and the US political class that Obama is not be trusted at the helm of the state, and that McCain is in fact, the best choice to lead the country.

    Political observers noted that support for the Democratic contender had been growing leading into Tuesday's face-off, and said they saw nothing in the debate that was likely to change that, including in a handful of all-important in battleground states.

    Meanwhile, despite the generally civil exchanges of Tuesday's encounter, observers continued to remark upon the markedly nasty tone between the two candidates.

    The New York Times excoriated McCain and Governor Palin of Alaska for the tone of the Arizona senator's campaign.

    "Ninety minutes of forced cordiality did not erase the dismal ugliness of his campaign in recent weeks, nor did it leave us with much hope that he would not just return to the same dismal ugliness on Wednesday," it lamented.

    "We certainly expected better from Mr McCain, who once showed withering contempt for win-at-any-cost politics," it said.

    McCain, widely criticized for rarely looking at Obama during their first debate two weeks ago, let his dislike of his opponent show again, when he referred to him as "that one" in a tense exchange over energy.

    A CNN national poll after the debate found that 54 percent of those asked thought Obama won and 30 percent said McCain was victorious.

    A CBS survey also gave the debate to Obama -- 40 percent to 26 percent.

    Gallup's daily tracking poll Tuesday reflected the high stakes for McCain, giving Obama a nine point lead nationally, while the Democratic nominee is also widening his edge in key battleground states.

    Yahoo!
  2. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    I was watching Brit Hume and I agree with the panel members when they say that John McCain needs to grab hold of a single message and run with it.

    He needs to emphasize his experience and really needs to talk about the dangers of having one party running the entire coutry.
  3. Bach

    Bach Benched

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    I agree. He really should be hammering on the one party with all control and mentioning Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid along with Obama by name. Unless you're a hardcore liberal, that should be a scary prospect.
  4. Wheat

    Wheat Philosopher

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    He can't hammer that because he was PART of that....and the 6 years before it.

    He does however need to pick one message and stick with it. Right now its seizure with him. He is all over the place.
  5. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    Game over. Pack it in.
  6. Big Dakota

    Big Dakota New Member

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    I'm 100% for BO, but you are right. JM has 26 days to create doubt about who this guy is and what he stands for, because God knows he can't win on the economy. Fear of who this guy is and what he will do is the only message.
  7. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch Lost in the Woods

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    Agreed but it may be too late.
  8. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    This thing is far from over.

    It's been proven that what people say they will do on election day can be totally different then what they will actually do.

    John McCain still has time to close the gap but he has got to start hitting on the points that would really matter ie experience, foreign policy etc etc.
  9. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem for McCain.

    His #1 argument over Obama (which actually was a very, very good one) was that experience mattered more than anything. He said that we cant have "on the job training".

    Then why in the hell did he go and pick Sarah Palin as his VP? He went and picked the governor of the least populated state in the US in her first term with her only other political experience being mayor of a town of 9000 people.

    This is McCain's problem, he cant say inexperience disqualifies you from the White House because he has to say that his running mate is qualified to replace him if something should happen. He cant admit that his VP pick is not qualified to be President, that would look bad on his judgement.

    So how do you disqualify Obama on lack of experience and at the same time say that your VP, who has little to no experience herself, is qualifed?

    Simply answer is he cant, that is why he changed his campaign theme to "change" over "experience". Problem is that a 72 year old senator who has been in Washington for 30 years and voted with Bush 95% of the time saying "I will bring change" is laughable to most people and the polls show it.

    So what do you do if you are McCain???
  10. SuspectCorner

    SuspectCorner Bromo

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    Yeah. And who cares if it's not true. This is for the Presidency, dammit!
  11. Bach

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    And Obama can say change, change, change and mention the economy a million times but it's all just empty rhetoric. He has no answers. But that apparently doesn't matter because he says "change and hope", even though there is no substance to it.

    Yesterday Charlie Gibson asked him what he'd do different on the economy from Bush and his administration. Obama just went on and attacked Bush and said he wasn't a leader, blah, blah, blah and when he got in office he would lead and, in his own words, 'try different stuff until we found something that worked'.

    That's it! That's all he said. Empty rhetoric about generic "change" and trying different "stuff". That's your entire Obama campaign right there. PERIOD. No real ideas. No substance. Just slogans and empty words. Unbelievable, and yet people seem to eat it up.
  12. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives.

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    He's lucky he is only talking about being a President and not talking about working in IT, he wouldn't get the job with me if that's what he said here on an interview...lol.
  13. Wheat

    Wheat Philosopher

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    They just showed clips from Foxnews where McCain is saying that we need to know MORE about Ayers because Obama isn't being honest.

    Then a clip of Obama saying...."I think its interesting they can say this stuff.......but he can't say it to my face"

    Ouch!
  14. Bach

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    There's still another debate. Maybe it'll come up. This last debate it wasn't asked and would've seemed totally out of place to just start talking about it.
  15. theogt

    theogt Surrealist Zone Supporter

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    There's nothing McCain can do at this point. His polling really is that bad right now. It's going to take some event outside of his control to change this election, either a major Obama gaffe or some sort of catastrophic event.
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt °¤~Cold Eternal~¤° Staff Member

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    My sources are telling me that Obama and Ayers are planning on bombing McCain's House. The only snag in the plan thus far is to figure out which, of the many, McCain house to bomb.

    It's a joke people.
  17. Wheat

    Wheat Philosopher

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    Of course, that's the Nuke Option.....and I think Obama WANTS that to happen.

    He wants it to be a week later with people even more sick of the negative stuff. Then for McCain to appear like he's just losing it while Obama gets to stay on the issues.
  18. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg Pow! Pow!

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    Yup. In his interview with ABC, he questioned why McCain won't say it to his face. He basically called him out.
  19. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt °¤~Cold Eternal~¤° Staff Member

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    Word is that after the cameras cut off Obama was heard saying...I'm going to have to pull a Wayne Brady and choke a....
  20. Bach

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    The issues? :laugh2: You mean the empty rhetoric about hope and change.

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