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Time-Warner/CBS

Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by dexternjack, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Well, TW went through with it and took CBS off the air here in LA. Other major markets were affected as well from NY to Dallas.

    I can't watch tomorrow if Tiger can play another good round or some of my TV shows for the time being. Will this affect football games?

    I don't care which side wins, but us customers will lose no matter what. Nothing but a bunch of greedy corporate people trying to make another billion or so. It is pathetic that it had to come down to this and if Dish Network was an option, there would be a few phone calls in the morning. The satellite companies are crooks too, but which crook wins?

    What a sneaky plan, get us hooked on "Under the Dome" then pull the plug, brilliant! I guess it is time to find the inner geek and figure out a way to avoid all cable companies :(
  2. iceberg

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    the fact of the matter is - who is selling the best content, and how can the provider capitalize off it? both side are in it for money. don't curse one for their sins but forgive what you want as "ok".

    last year dish was arguing with AMC. AMC to me, has far more to offer than CBS. CBS is pushing "under the dome" and that's the biggest hack job of a story i've ever seen done, produced and people paid to do.

    if TWC can't afford to keep CBS on the air, blame CBS for sucking so bad and asking too much for what it offered.
  3. kristie

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    good thing TW isn't here where i live. (charter is the cable company here in great falls) I do, however, feel bad for those affected by this.
  4. iceberg

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    i don't.

    CBS sucks. they can't sell their content to a provider so the provider cuts losses.

    you cant get cbs via lazy way, - put up an antenna.
  5. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Don't know how you came to the conclusion that I cursed one and forgave the other. They are both wrong and the only losers are the customers.

    One problem with this whole debacle, CBS has most of my favorite shows...Criminal Minds, Big Bang Theory, Survivor, Amazing Race, Football, etc. If NBC or ABC did this, I could not care less.
  6. iceberg

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    sorry - i just kinda came out of my own mindset.

    times they are a changing.

    customers are losing cause there's not "fixed" way to get content from a to b.

    customers are also taking advantage of the fact there is no fixed way to get content.

    there will be "bodies in the wake".
  7. dargonking999

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    At the end of the day, time warner will be the biggest loser because once you start pulling stations, then customers will search for other ways of getting that station, and it can lead to losing customers all together. The only thing CBS loses is some viewership, really, they still have there shows on the other networks, and you can still see there shows online, and other methods. the networks always have the upper hand. Which is why it always gets to this point. directTv has been down this road and lost, Dish has been down this road and lost. its very rare for cable providers to win in these battles.
  8. tantrix1969

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    I'm actually more pissed they pulled Showtime than CBS since with missing Dexter going to have to stream it, for CBS I just hit a button on my remote to switch back to antenna for whenever I want to watch it(which won't be until Aug. 9th preseason game, though haven't checked so may be on NFL network too),
  9. iceberg

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    yea, that explains why dish network is out of business when they dropped AMC over $ issues just before the next season of walking dead.
  10. dexternjack

    dexternjack World Traveler Zone Supporter

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    Corporate sponsors will put up huge pressure on CBS. They want their commercials to be seen, especially since these are some of the biggest markets. Like I said earlier, both will lose a lot of money and us customers lose out, the prices for us will increase no matter what.

    Here in LA, I can't even go back and watch shows online through CBS, we have been blocked there too.
  11. iceberg

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    corporate sponsors will go where the audience is going. usually when someone threatens to drop a provider like CBS it's money. CBS or the station feels they're worth XYZ$$$ and the provider, TWC, doesn't. i seldom if ever watch CBS so i have no idea what their ratings are when compared to other channels who are suddenly taking off with original content, and then the shows on the movie channels that have no commercials.

    from what i can tell, CBS wants more money for their content and TWC isn't willing to cough it up. for some unknown reason, under the dome is doing well in ratings and that could be part of the desire to be compensated for their content.

    so yea, CBS wants more cash and TWC has already extended their contract several times to try and help but it's still ongoing.
  12. arglebargle

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    My personal experiance is that Time Warner is a Big Evil, so I don't care as much about the specifics here. TWC abuses it's monopoly position like crazy. I worked for a company put out of business when TWC jacked up their rates by a factor of 100. When the owner went to talk to them with valid contract in hand, the local TWC boss said, 'Well, I guess you could sue us.' The owner determined that sueing them would bankrupt the business anyway, so just folded things instead. This, and discussions with some of their linemen, has lead me to the position that Time Warner can kiss my nether parts.
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  13. iceberg

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  14. Rogah

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    Well, of course it will affect football games if the temper tantrum lasts another month, but I have no doubt they will resolve things by then. I am one of those missing CBS right now, but am moving Labor Day weekend and will be getting DirecTV in my new place, so I am not worried about missing anything other than a preseason game or two.
  15. kristie

    kristie Well-Known Member

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    that's good.
  16. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    They are showing Starz channel on CBS 2 here in New York.
  17. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I made the switch to UVerse just in time.

    I don't care much for CBS because they aim their programming at a demographic I don't belong to, but I still want to see football.
  18. Hoofbite

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    I didn't know CBS got paid to "allow" cable companies the ability to rebroadcast their channel.

    Couldn't the cable companies just build an antenna input into the back of the box? They have ridiculously thin antennas that you can't even see. Build an input into the box, have people attach an antenna and tell FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC and all the other broadcast companies that you aren't going to pay them anymore.
  19. tantrix1969

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    I was thinking about switching mainly just to see if I could get a better deal than what I'm paying now but after talking to my neighbor with UVerse noway, he was telling me besides how much slower it is than Time Warner its been going out once or twice every week or so usually hour or two each time. The problems with UVerse may just be for my area(I live in an older area of Dallas) but I'm going to stick with cable(at least until FIOS is available,if it ever is) and just switch to ota for the times a game is on CBS
  20. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    That's fair. I was about to edit my last post, but it timed out on me.

    I went with UVerse for the first time because it was already pretty much set up and ready to go in my new apartment (I live in the Addison area). I've moved a lot over the last 7 years and since graduating college, and each time I have a different cable provider. So far it's been good, but then again I've only had it for about 2 weeks. TWC was far from the worst on the list of companies I've gone with, but overall I paid roughly the same for it as I did with FiOS and now UVerse, and I wasn't a fan of the menu/guide and was especially annoyed by the OnDemand interface-- also had some trouble with my wifi range.

    FiOS was the best one for me. However after about 8 months with FiOS the premium channels I had seemed to be frequently offline because of weather issues (although it was clear as day where I was). It really was an odd situation because it worked perfectly up until then.

    I'd still recommend it. Also the guys I know who are really into tech stuff claim it to be superior to U-Verse on a technical level also.

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