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TLH: Emmitt vs. Barry, a Favorite Debate

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Hostile, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    I'd take Payton. But they were not the same era so the debate isn't as common.

    I don't expect people to be as down on Barry as I am though. I openly admit in the article that I may be his harshest critic. I do not like what he brought his team at all.
  2. AmberBeer

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    I'll take Emmitt but to say you'd take 20 other backs before Sanders is ludicrous. Sanders, under a good coach, can be taught to hit those holes. Once he's past through the hole, he'd dance his way to the end zone.
  3. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    As I've already said, I wasn't joking. I do not like what he was to his team. To me, he was an anchor. An ultra exciting anchor who came up small in big situations too often.
  4. AmberBeer

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    He was pretty much the offense so in big games, teams focused on him. He was a great back.
  5. GroundUp

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    Barry Sanders is also the record holder for the most negative carries in NFL history. He's exciting to no end and I loved watching him play but give me Emmitt and a ton of other backs anyway.
  6. DejectedFan1996

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    Nothing on this forum shocks me anymore.
  7. DejectedFan1996

    DejectedFan1996 Active Member

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    Took the words RIGHT out of my mouth. Was gonna post the EXACT same thing.
  8. Ring Leader

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    Ask Emmitt if he would trade careers with Barry. The laughter would be deafening. Also, Emmitt did end up on top - he has the NFL rushing record to prove it. Barry was a great runner, he just couldn't translate it into winning games. Barry knows it, Emmitt knows it, and deep down inside, you know it.
  9. maxdallasfan

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    The chicken or the egg?
  10. Arkyvarminter

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    I'm going to put my two cents in. I believe that if Barry Sanders had played for the Dallas Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson he would have done MORE than Emmitt. He would have scored much more than he did in Detroit. He would have ran under Jimmy's philosophy and would be the best back in the history of the NFL, which I already consider him to be. He wasn't used correctly in Detroit and anyone can see that. They just let Barry run and Jimmy wouldn't have done that. He would have used Barry differently.
    Emmitt was a great back but he was on a very, very good team. Barry didn't have the players around him like Emmitt did on offense or defense and especially coaching. Barry Sanders got tired of losing. He got tired of running. He got tired of the game. Barry is very humble to this day about his accomplishments and gives all backs the respect they deserve. He was a classy guy who just handed the ball to the ref after a TD. He didn't take his helmet off and parade around the field. I like Emmitt but he isn't in Barry's league. Not even close.
  11. Ring Leader

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    Emmitt has way more yards and rings. Fortunately for Emmitt, he's not anywhere close to Barry's league. Emmitt, happily, wouldn't have it any other way.
  12. percyhoward

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    Emmitt's success had little to do with the team he played for. It was the other way around.

    He was National High School Player of the Year in 1986. His teams won two state championships. None of the the players on that team made an NFL roster except for Emmitt.
  13. DFWJC

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    Of course Emmitt would not trade careers with Barry, and not a single person hear has even remotely hinted at that.

    Furthermore, Sanders all but has said that he WOULD trade with Emmitt. He wanted to win badly. That's why he retired after 10 seasons and 10 straight All-Pro and Pro Bowl teams (only player ever), because he was pouring his guts out but was sick of losing and knew he had already had great career and given his all. Emmitt has said he would have asked for trade in that situation and always felt sorry for Barry.

    Emmitt was great. So was Barry.
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2013
  14. GimmeTheBall!

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    No doubt Barry was surrounded by garbage for most of his years. Emmitt, largely, had stellar players surrounding him.
    Both were great runners. But no one can persuade me that Barry was not the better. Had Emmitt been on the Lions, he might not have the career rushing record. You know it, I know, Bob Dole know it.
  15. mldardy

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    First I hate the if Emmitt had been a Lion blah blah. Such a silly argument he wasn't so we'll never know. I know what Emmitt did as a Cowboy and that is all that matters. I know for sure that he wouldn't have rushed for negative yards in a playoff game, quit on his team and retire right before training camp and if Barry had separated his shoulder like Emmitt did he would have sat out the rest of that game and if for by some miracle Barry would have re-entered that game would have been nowhere near as great and effective as Emmitt was that day. I do know all of that FOR SURE.
  16. mldardy

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    It's amazes how people forget or don't know how good Emmitt was before becoming a Cowboy. People always think he was a great player because of playing on the Cowboys. The guy broke records in high school and if not for injury would have done the same thing in Cowboy. The guy was not only talented but extremely focused and determined to succeed. You can't replace that combination no matter how hard people try.
  17. Ring Leader

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    I gave you facts, you're speculating. Nobody actually "knows" anything from your invented team swap hypothesis.
  18. LatinMind

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    umm I believe Emmitt held out in 93 after they won the superbowl for the first 2 games of the yr. And guess what they lost both games. He comes back and they go on to win superbowl #2. Not Aikman, not Irvin, not the defense, not the OL. Emmitt was the most important part of that Dallas Dynasty.
  19. khiladi

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    I think that play actually altered his game to some exent. I use to vaguely remember him flying over piles often before that play. Afterwards, I can't recall him ever doing it.
  20. khiladi

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    Prior to Emitt, three of his five OL were playing. Stepnoski, Newton and Tunei and Aikman was getting routinely pummeled, one of the worst OL in the league. Larry Allen came on board after 2 SP were already won. Erik Williams on the other was not. To argue that the line made Emmitt is absurd. His career was built on vision and acceleration, though his break away speed wasn't like Barry's.

    His career was built on vision and acceleration, though his break away speed wasn't like Barry's.
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