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TonyPauline: Hearing right now Poe/DT/Memphis is the favorite in the Cowboys war room

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by cowboyjoe, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. reddyuta

    reddyuta Well-Known Member

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    I am just going to say that this defense will be transformed if we hit on him and he turns out to be a force in the middle,its just a huge risk though.
  2. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    The big difference is that Sapp produced in college... Poe?


    Not so much.
  3. NeonDeion21

    NeonDeion21 Well-Known Member

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    That's bad drafting philosophy. You take the player you think will be the best for the duration of the career, not in year 1. Draft BPA, not a player that fills a need.

    The Packers took Aaron Rodgers at #25, didn't help at all immediately. But eventually was the BPA and they sacrificed 3 years to let him develop.
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    And how.
  5. Cowboy Junkie

    Cowboy Junkie leonargized

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    one day I want this guy badly the next I do not want to touch him.

    I do think one of the biggest weaknesses on Dallas is lack of size at DT.
  6. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    That's fine for a guy outside of the first round.

    But a first rounder-- Especially that high up in the draft needs to be able to come in and play a bunch of quality snaps pretty quickly.
  7. DBOY3141

    DBOY3141 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe there is something to the hiring of Lett.

    Both are big guys who came into the league full of potential. Let Leon personally mentor this guy.

    For all the folks that say Ryan has had success with big guys. He had Rodgers in Cleveland, but when Rodgers was cut last year....did we call him? I wonder why.

    I'm not a fan of Poe. If you don't look good on tape, you won't play good on Sunday.

    Cox, Barron or Konz will be the pick.
  8. CowboysLaw87

    CowboysLaw87 Active Member

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    Not a fan of this pick but make no mistake about it... he would absolutely come in and play right away. We wouldn't take him if we thought otherwise. How "quality" the snaps would be is a different question.
  9. NeonDeion21

    NeonDeion21 Well-Known Member

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    Why? We don't grade drafts off their rookie year. We base them on how they are 5 years from now. Get the best players regardless if they will help you now or later.
  10. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 RAWR

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    I would rather "Reach" for Cordy Glenn @ 14 then gamble on No Production Poe...
  11. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Well-Known Member

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    Haven't you heard, we are stacked at every position and we can afford to draft special teams and guys who can learn for a bit

    Signed
    Cowboys 2009 Draft
  12. CowboysLaw87

    CowboysLaw87 Active Member

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    It's obviously best that the guy helps now and in the future. Maybe it's not the end all be all, but it's definitely relevant if the guy doesn't project to help now. This isn't the NBA... NFL teams don't generally trip all over themselves for "potential."
  13. NeonDeion21

    NeonDeion21 Well-Known Member

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    I am glad you bolded "reach" because he might seem to a reach to most fans. But not me. This guy is a natural guard who dominated Ingram, Coples, Upshaw at the Senior Bowl at LT! He is a dominant player and who will take his lumps early, but you will be amazed with the end result.
  14. mensaone

    mensaone Benched

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    :laugh2: :lmao: :lmao2: :laugh1:
  15. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    I understand that.

    But this team isn't loaded with talent, let's not forget that it's 14-18 over the past two seasons and there are holes all over the roster... And to draft someone at #14 who can't contribute immediately would be a massive crime.
  16. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    Calm down folks. He is probably the apple of the eye of one of the 13 teams in front of us too. This could be a smoke screen because they may really want Coples. The fact the his college position coach talked crap about him is a not a good sign IMO. If they really do like him, they probably envision using as a mismatch as opposed to NT.
  17. NeonDeion21

    NeonDeion21 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you to a point. But I don't see where it is cut and dry that Poe couldn't contribute right away. And if he can't in year one, it still wouldn't make me shy away from him. But playing right away certainly helps.
  18. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I think if the Cowboys did take him he would be starting. As I have said Poe would not be my pick but I don't think it is a bad pick.
  19. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea of hooking up with Lindsey Lohan, but I wouldn't marry the *****! She has too many issues to invest that much in.
  20. InmanRoshi

    InmanRoshi Zone Scribe

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    Pauline was all over the place last year with Cowboys predictions. He just threw everything against the wall until something stuck. I distinctly remember him saying we were going after Cam Jordan last year. He may have a "source" with the Cowboys, but it's probably a low level regional scout, not a real decision maker.

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