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TonyPauline: Hearing right now Poe/DT/Memphis is the favorite in the Cowboys war room

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by cowboyjoe, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    I love your enthusiasm!
  2. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    If none of the OLB, DL, S or CB are worth #14 I don't know how Poe is.

    I mean, unless the draft is based solely on potential there's no way Poe is worth #14.
  3. TVMan

    TVMan Active Member

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    You must have missed the post about how he actually started playing the game to begin with. He began playing in High School. He has been playing probably 5 years at most. So, he still has plenty of time to get it.
  4. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    Well we disagree about Poe. I would rather draft him in the lower 1/3 of the first but guys like him, OTs, pass rushers, QBs, elite DBs will generally rise. He will go in the top 20 likely top 15. He fits our scheme and needs. He has the tools to do the job. He's big enough, strong enough, and quick/fast enough to play NT and DE and do it well. People keep saying his film doesn't match his draft round. Well that's not a complete consensus as others feel differently. I agree he's riskier than some others in that tier.
  5. fanfromvirginia

    fanfromvirginia Inconceivable!

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    Agreed. Count me as another fan of Poe who recognizes and admits he's a risky pick.
  6. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    I really don't understand alot of this hate for Poe, alot of it seems to come from him not being that particular fans' pet cat.

    There is a high possibility that he won't even be there when we pick anyway. It has been said that he interviewed well, and is a quick twitch athlete, something hard to find in a man this big. Only thing that concerns me about Poe is his short arms, and being able to get guys off of him with his hands.

    Of course the boom/bust potential is high, but I could handle the risk for the potential reward of having a guy like him in the middle of this D.
  7. cowboy_ron

    cowboy_ron You Can't Fix Stupid

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    Can you imagine this forum if the Pick was Poe with DeCastro still on the board?:lmao:
  8. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    I would be ecstatic with either one.
  9. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Complete disaster.

    Passing on what might be the safest pick for a guy who is undoubtedly the riskiest?

    Complete disaster.
  10. Yuma Cactus

    Yuma Cactus Active Member

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    Say No to Poe!
  11. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    So we are going to use the 14th pick in the draft on Ratliff's backup?


    Thats the master plan Jerry and Redball have?


    HAAAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    He is riskier, but the reward is alot higher. Any GM would take an all pro DT over an all pro guard, just a fact, and its proven by the salaries each would receive on the open market.

    Both are fine with me, but it has to be seen that the potential reward of Poe is alot greater.
  13. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    I dont think some of yall realize that when Romo retires, thats game over folks. It means jack who our nose tackle is at that point, so why the hell are we not trying to "win now" before this window closes?


    Poe is not a "win now" pick, I seriously dont get this strategy at all. And for everybody saying "trust the scouts", are these the same scouts we used for the 09 draft?
  14. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    What do you do if you turn the projector on and that "slober knocker" looks totally disinterested half the time, takes downs off, and disappers for entire games against clearly inferior talent?


    You still running the card up to the commish?
  15. Beast_from_East

    Beast_from_East Well-Known Member

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    Something in my house is going to get broken................:laugh2:
  16. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    The choice isn't an all pro DT or G though.

    It's a G who has a track record of great play in a top notch conference with expectations of a high level of play right out of the gate.


    Or


    A DT with a poor history of production in a weaker conference with only potential being his projection.

    He could be great. He could be horrible.

    Nobody knows and that's the problem I have with the guy. He's far too big of an unknown for Dallas to gamble on. At #14 you should be able to get a guy who at least gives you a reason to believe he can play other than having a great workout.

    If I were Dallas, I'd let someone else try to coach him up.
  17. Ren

    Ren Well-Known Member

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    We're not good enough to be throwing picks away on the likes of Poe.
    He didn't exactly stand out in college against fairly average competition but he's supposed to just turn it on in the NFL cause he had a great combine

    Poe will be a bust, i just hope that's for someone else
  18. Deep_Freeze

    Deep_Freeze Well-Known Member

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    The difference is if he wasn't an unknown, he would be top 5. The risk is the only reason why we would get a chance at him at all.

    It does depend on your risk tolerance, and right now I don't mind risk for us if the reward is high. And you know one thing, a guy like Nicks hit free agency, but a guy like Ngata won't see free agency. There were similar questions when the Ravens took Ngata, but they took the chance, and in this case I ain't scared.
  19. btcutter

    btcutter Well-Known Member

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    Poe vs Ngata? Seriously? Ngata was a beast in college. Poe....was Jane.

    Watch the film and you realize he's an ATHLETE but NOT A GREAT Football player. He look lost and slow. Can't find the ball carrier.

    Your first rounder suppose to step in and contribute at a high level and with upside for All Pro. Projects are reserved for 3rd round and beyond.

    Cowboys got in trouble with Tex in the 80's because he started to think he was smarter than rest of the NFL and drafted "athletes" whom he thought would turn to be great players in the 1st round.....busts...busts...and got Landry fired.
  20. The Realist

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    Total smoke.

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