Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by mlubbering, Apr 25, 2013.
Sounds like he's the pick. Underwhelmed.
we took the best C in the draft, can play either OG or C day one. Ravens might have taken him at 32. I preferred another trade down into the 2nd at this point but I am happy with this pick. Just not happy with the value we got in the trade.
Good player. Not at 31. I'm a big fan of Frederick. I just don't think he is worth a first.
we helped romo and our run game good . weve been ing about this for years.
Mayock had him as a late third rounder but I'm trusting that Callahan had some input and I'm certainly not going to complain about them taking the best option at center... that position has been killing us for years. Odd to have Mayock place him so far down the top 100 list and hear the Ravens liked him at 32,,, something is off.
Well there goes Schwenke....hate the pick, but understand why they did it.
Loved him at 47. Not the biggest fan at 31.
The "Best whatever in the draft" is meaningless if he was taken about a round and a half too soon.
Hey, the best kicker and punter in the draft were still available, we could have had them too.
It was a horrible trade and a horrible pick. PERIOD.
Stop defending the buffoon (Jerrah).
No, Mayock had him as a 3rd and number 92.
Already positive theres no one they can draft at 74 that will justify passing on Floyd. Tried to stay optimistic, but that just went out the window.
This was awful. He better not make one bad snap. The firs over the head of romo I will kill him.
Give me a break. He was a high second on most mocks and fills a HUGE need. Plus, look at the crazy run on OLinemen. If the guy starts at center for 10 years, is he a terrible pick?
First off I wish him luck I would have preferd Warford or trade back again.
Should have stuck to the board and got Floyd
That's probably the best way to describe my feelings as well.
I love Frederick. He steps right in at center or guard and starts, day 1.
But I thought he'd be there at 47.
I though Schwenke was going to be a better value pick, too.
Don't like how tonight went down. Pretty much the worst case scenario for us at 18 if we didn't want Floyd. But once we moved all the way out of range of any of our first round graded guys, it really doesn't make much difference to me if we took the guy a dozen spots 'too early' at this level of players. There's a wide band of guys knotted up here with second round grades. Teams are going to 'reach' relative to the experts' draft lists because the grouping is pretty flat and teams are going to have favorites for their systems.
It just sucks that our guy wasn't there at 18, and then we got so little in the trade down. We'll have a better day tomorrow. If Frederick is a decent starter, that's a win. And we did pick up the extra pick.
Over the last several years, Damien Woody, Jeff Faine, Chris Spencer, Nick Mangold, Alex Mack, Eric Wood and Markice Pouncy are the only Centers taken in the 1st round, going back to 1999.
I just don't see Fredrick as a guy who is as talented as these guys.
Woah woah woah... He isn't Demarcus Ware caliber so he is definitely a bust...
In all seriousness the dude is legit. Just because people read what "experts" have them MOCK DRAFTED they think its a crap pick...
I heard loud cries for Cooper, Warmack, Warford...
We got a guy comparable and as versatile as Cooper and it sucks??
The only complaint I can give is maybe better compansation
I agree. Here is an analysis of Travis Frederick:
Strengths Thick-bodied interior lineman with experience at guard and center. Possesses upper body strength to turn his man out of the hole, help one guard in pass pro with one hand. Gets his hands up quickly after the snap, keeps them inside. Also moves his feet well to get angles, combo from tackle to linebacker. Churns his legs as a drive-blocker, gets movement. Anchor is strong, does not get bulled backwards when man-up and late blitzers bounce off his chest. Works hard to sustain and finish one-on-one blocks. Regularly used on the move whether at guard or center, fits on blocks well whether stepping up to the second level or outside the hashes. Shotgun snaps are reliable with good velocity.
Weaknesses Girth in the middle takes away some quickness behind the line, takes time to get around the tackle and gets tripped up in traffic when on the move. Gets out-quicked by interior blitzers and occasionally stops his feet in pass protection. Can lose his balance when leaning into his man, though he recovers well enough to get back in the play.
Bottom Line The Badgers’ streak of providing the NFL with top interior line prospects should continue with Frederick because he uses his toughness and thick body, in addition to excellent technique and flashes of foot quickness, to move defenders whether at guard or center –where he played during the 2012 season and probable NFL spot. A top-75 selection is likely.
Prisco had him at 24 in his last mock