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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by ARMAGEDDON EAGLE, Aug 26, 2004.



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    Some of us are too quick to use the term "Trolling." Take for example the following quote ...

    Here's one by Trickblue ... [​IMG]

    So, when things get a little rough for some of you tough C'boy fans you pull the "Troll" card! Lol

    Thought this might help you out the next time things get a little rough ...Posts, and their authors, which inadvertently cause strife as collateral damage are not trolls.

    Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings and, upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they—and the troll—understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group.

    "Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling—where the rate of deception is high—many honestly naive questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation." (Donath, 1999, p. 45)

    The term has negative connotations, and is often applied as an insult, while simultaneously being claimed as a 'badge of honour' by troll organizations or individuals. The sincere but controversial or naive poster may sometimes be mis-labeled a troll, but the term is generally considered to be correctly applied only to one intending to provoke outrage or discord.
    The troll's reaction, once identified as a troll, can vary widely depending upon the forum in which the exchange takes place. Any person unjustly accused of being a troll may be hurt and will express indignation. The troll will sometimes react with verbal abuse, raising the stakes with inflammatory remarks maligning the motivation of the accuser. If a person pursues his/her perceived enemy from site to site, one is most certainly a troll.
    Trolling is often described as an online version of the breaching experiment, where social boundaries and rules of etiquette are broken. The self-proclaimed troll will often style itself as a Devil's Advocate or gadflies, challenging the dominant discourse and assumptions of the forum it is "trolling", in an attempt to subvert and introduce different ways of thinking. Detractors who value etiquette claim the true "Devil's Advocate" generally identifies themself as such for the sake of etiquette, whereas the troll often considers etiquette to be something itself worthty of trolling.
    The troll is sometimes caricatured as socially inept. This is often due to fundamental attribution error, as it is difficult to know the real traits of an individual solely from their online discourse. Indeed, since the intentional troll is alleged to knowingly flout social boundaries, it is difficult to typecast the troll as socially inept; trolls arguably prove adept at achieving the goal of inciting conflict.

    The next time you have the urge to call someone a troll, look in the mirror, you may just be one yourself :cool:
  2. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Looking down on you Staff Member

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    You are an eagles fan on a cowboys message board that argues about almost everything concerning the cowboys/eagles players.

    What do you expect?

    If a cowboys fan went to an eagles message board...and said the exact same things you have said....many eagles fans on that board would be calling you a troll.

    Just the way it is.
  3. Tio

    Tio Armchair QB

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    Is the eagle whining again? Like I said, if you don't like it here, leave, we won't change for you.


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    Mod Squad,

    Sure, I know what to expect on a predonimantely C'boys board. And again, 99.9 percent of your advice is usually right on point!

    But I really think some fans are too quick to shout the "T" word, and they use it because it's their only defense. Hey if I'm wrong, I'll come back to you know that I'm embarrased, but I won't call you the "T" word! Why, because I know the difference -- because I've seen real trolls at work, and it's not pretty. Listen, some fans really haven't seen a real live troll! If they did, they would definitely know the difference.

    I just want to increase awareness. :rolleyes:


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    I'll take your kind invitation into consideration after we play you in the first regular season game. Better yet, how about this Mr RW-dirty one ...

    If the C'boy win the first time they play the Eagles In regular open season; I'll take you up on your gracious Invitation for my departure (I wouldn't want to hurt your precious feelings anymore) :(

    If the Eagles win the first time they play the Eagles In regular open season;I'll
    stay, and you will Not be able to quote me on any of my posts or comments Until the Eagles play the C'boys again!

    A gentlemen's wager between rival fans (hey has this ever been done before?). What about it; where's your sllab? Let's do it!

    Quoted in ...
    Doc Holiday to Ringo, in Tombstone!
  6. trickblue

    trickblue Not Old School...Old Testament...

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    Good gosh... and you call us over-sensitive...

    Did I indulge in name-calling? Did I fire of a barrage of hate-filled rhetoric? I simply posted a graphic in good fun...

    Now... I know what a real troll is as I was married to one at one time...

    As far as the moniker used in this respect, I posted it because you were "trolling" Cowboy-related threads in order to needle a bit... and there is nothing wrong with that, but don't run around the board being a "victim" as we have enough of those in this country already...

    BTW... I ASSURE you a troll graphic is not my only defense... :rolleyes:
  7. TLW47

    TLW47 New Member

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    Quote it right. "Tombstone" is one of my favorites.

    It goes like this "I'm your Huckleberry".

    Now proceed. I just know Doc would want to be quoted accurately. Or the scriptwriter anyway. :p


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    Dayam sorry about th misquote -- it IS my favorite! But on second thought, Doc said it twice, once while he was in the barbers chair, and again toward the end of the movie when he met Ringo in Wyatt's place. If I'm not mistaken, he did indeed say "I'll be your Huckleberry" on one of those two segments.

    CHeck it! ;)
  9. TLW47

    TLW47 New Member

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    Ahhh..I'm just having some fun with ya. Great movie.
    I've always wondered how accurate it is but never bothered to check.

    Next time I dig it out I'll check. Like anybody cares who is right, right? :eek:


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    You got me!
  11. TLW47

    TLW47 New Member

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    Don't tell me you dug it out to check? :)

    I was really just having some fun with you!


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    But I really do like the movie -- it's a hobby, I'm a western movie buff. :)
  13. TLW47

    TLW47 New Member

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    Well then you should be a devoted Cowboys fan then! There is nothing more western than a "Cowboy".


    Maybe we can convert you.


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    Cool down. I used your moniker because it best emphasized the visual effect for my post; I'm not trying to come down on you or anything like that. Actually the moniker was a nice piece of graphics.

    BTW, your posts are fine with me ...hate them, but they are usually well thought out quips and have some value; for a C'boy :cool:
  15. trickblue

    trickblue Not Old School...Old Testament...

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    I'm not upset about anything as I had an "oh brother" slant to my keystokes... I guess that is the problem with typed messages, you can't tell frame of mind (well, you can with some)...

    As I said... nothing wrong with you cruising around here making posts... and you like to give good-natured jabs... but we like to jab back too... that sign was nothing personal as I have made one for every team in the NFC East... ;)


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    "Eastern Cowboys" are Eagle fans.
  17. TobiasEagle77

    TobiasEagle77 Member

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    I wouldn't go that far, but I would like to point out that there are alot more Eagles in the west. Here in Alaska, we have alot of Eagles and alot of "cowboys". There is also a high concentration of Texans.
  18. Roughneck

    Roughneck Active Member

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    "Mommy, those mean old Cowboys fans called me a troll (which you are) and that's not nice so I'm going to start a whole 'nother thread just to defend myself even though I'm only further proving the fact that I am one."

    Geez dude, I've seen people who have been gutshot that complain less than you do. A couple of threads don't go the way you like so you start cryin' foul? Damn, that's weaker than Donnie McNabb's arm and more pathetic than the Eagirls' NFC Championship Record.

    The fact is that you throw around little quips and jabs in your posts and think you're being cute when you're really coming off as nothing more than a whiny insufferable turd. What's even worse is, for as bad as AJM is, at least when he replies to something he disagrees with he does it with actual arguments. You know, instead of *****in' and moanin' or trying to backtrack about how his post was just a joke or that everybody needs to calm down when someone calls him on his BS (aka the ARMAGEDDON EAGLE style of posting).

    In closing, I truly do hope that one day you will actually grow a pair because Lord knows you don't have a set right now.
  19. AJM1613

    AJM1613 New Member

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    (I didn't read your whole post)

    Some people just don't like oposing fans views so they call "us" trolls.
  20. Portland Fanatic

    Portland Fanatic Well-Known Member

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    Welcome aboard "Troll"... :p

    I take it your Iggles board is a little boring right now. By the way what is your Iggles website...never been. No need really.

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