Urlacher or Lewis?

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  1. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    Question for those who think Lewis should be in HOF: Do you think London Fletcher should too? They have similar numbers.
  2. JackWagon

    JackWagon Well-Known Member

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    If you look at Ray Lewis' body of work in the NFL ... the dude is a first ballot HoFer. Still think he was a jerk for withholding info about a guys death ... but on the field the dude was up there as one of the best ever.
  3. BraveHeartFan

    BraveHeartFan We got a hat. I want a ring.

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    Yes he should be.

    Fletcher has very quietly been one of the better players in the league for a long long time.

    The guy definately deserves to be in Canton.
  4. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    I just forgot about him. And I'd put him in the same tier and could easily argue he was a bit better, too. Add Tommy Nobis although it can be argued that those guys with some exceptions were too slow to play in today's game esp having to cover. I don't know how fast Howley was after his injury but before he was a 4.5-6 guy. He was fast enough playing for the Cowboys. Landry said he could have easily played RB.
  5. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    I'm a huge Fletcher fan but if Jordan, Howley, and Nobis aren't in then no. Even just looking at his merits no as well. The two word no.
  6. ehcrossing

    ehcrossing Waiting for six

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    Lewis and it isn't even close.
  7. Ntegrase96

    Ntegrase96 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about Fletcher making it... he probably shouldn't when you consider other players that haven't made it yet.

    But your question may be a little flawed with the idea that numbers = HOF. If only it were that simple.
  8. bedlamvr

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    The thing with Fletcher was he has the Ring, but also he has been a constant player throughout his career, he has played in 3-4, 4-3 and everything in between . He has been a difference maker on some very bad teams and the defenses on the Bills teams he was on and the Skins teams he was on wee good defenses because of him ..

    Unlike Urlacher his game has not really fallen off a cliff, nor did his game change as the supporting cast around him change ...

    Londons problem is he has been consistent but on teams where the spotlight was elsewhere - With the Rams, it was the greatest show on turf, with the Bills, they were just terrible, and the Skins were a circus/curiosity for most of his time there too .

    He has gained some recognition later in his career with the more recent pro bowls but i see him being lost in the transition from Lewis and Urlacher to Willis, Bowman, and Lee as the name LBs ....

    and even as a Skins fan I see it very very very unlikely that Fletcher even makes the discussion to be honest when he does hang it up unless the Skins do something amazing in 2013 and our defense rebounds somewhat ... which is a shame, because from all accounts he is an amazing player, great leader and a great role model .

    Urlacher hit the league like an atom bomb but really fizzled out - I don't even think about the Bears defenses anymore as game changers - They have a couple of good guys up front but really they are middle of the road, and have been for a while ... Urlacher to me really has not been WOW amazing for maybe 5 or 6 years ...

    Lewis has seen his game fall off from the heights of his youth but still he was consistent later on, when he was on the field ... i think like Urlacher if Lewis did not hang it up this season, he was going to be cut like Ed Reed and you never want to see a legend go out like that .

    Of the two I would see Lewis go into the HoF real soon, Urlacher if he makes it at all will be far too early ...
  9. koolaid

    koolaid Drink Me

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    Ray Lewis
    Not only an all time great at linebacker, but also one of the greatest leaders of men to set foot on the field.
  10. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    It's not even close, IMO. Ray Lewis is the greatest MLB to play the game. At least in the modern era. Urlacher isn't even in the discussion.

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