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Vela on scrimmage, high praise offense, crushes the D Line

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by RS12, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. RS12

    RS12 Well-Known Member

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    When the first offense played the first defense yesterday, the Os had it — every time. They scored quickly, they scored deliberately. They moved the ball with short passes and long ones. They ran wide and inside. Martin and the second year offensive skill position guys could take last year’s dangerous attack to an even higher, more thrilling level.

    Of course, their effectiveness may be down to the poor level of defensive competition they face. This year’s front seven is, at this point in the pre-season, the thinnest I’ve ever seen. The athleticism of lines past simply isn’t there. [SIZE=+0]Demarcus Lawrence[/SIZE] may have several sacks in his surgically repaired foot, and Henry Melton may have the juice to replace Jason Hatcher, but there was nobody on the field yesterday with the power and speed to overpower an offensive lineman. Martez Wilson made a play later in the scrimmage, but he was working against the Cowboys second offensive line. When the first strings squared off, the first offensive line kept [SIZE=+0]Tony Romo[/SIZE]’s jersey clean and his passing lanes clear.

    In years past, there were always two or three big time athletes on the line. I remember Dearcus Ware’s rookie camp in Oxnard. In an early rush drill, he went one-on-one with Dan Campbell, a big 255 lb. tight end signed in free agency for his blocking skills. In this particular drill, an orange cone was put seven yards behind the line, at the spot where the quarterback would set after a deep drop. The rushers job was to fight his way to the cone and touch it.

    Ware’s approach was brutal, swift and effective. He hit Campbell head on, lifted him off the ground and dropped him onto the cone. Embarrassed at having the cone administered as a suppository in front of hundreds of stunned fans, Campbell slammed the ground in disgust. Ware had put everybody on notice that he was not going to be stopped, and nobody ever again stopped him in a Cowboys camp. Just last year, Ware looped inside on a stunt and put prize rookie [SIZE=+0]Travis Frederick[/SIZE] on his keyster. (See the photo.)
    In that same ’05 camp, and unsung rookie named Jay Ratliff made a habit of getting into veteran guard Marco Rivera’s face mask. Ratliff bowed Rivera back with punch outs to the jaw, until the vet grew angry and started a fight. Again, a rookie showed that he was physically capable of overpowering any opponent.

    When I scanned the lines yesterday, I saw no defensive lineman, inside or out, with the physical tools to emulate Ware or Ratliff. [SIZE=+0]Ken Bishop[/SIZE], Dartwan Bush and [SIZE=+0]Davon Coleman[/SIZE] try hard, but they’re all short, bowling-ball type players. There are no high-cut Leon Lett, Ratliff-build defensive tackles, with the long legs and longer arms needed to crack pockets in quick time. There’s no edge rusher with the get off to turn the corner low and hard.

    There are fighters in the Cowboys secondary, but they’ll grow tired over the course of the season if the front office cannot build a rush in front of them. And that’s the most worrisome note on this 4th of August. The Cowboys rush, so woeful in 2013, looks even worse today. The Cowboys put all their eggs in the Lawrence basket and have seen that plan fracture, literally and figuratively

    http://cowboysnation.com/2014/08/rushed-blue-white-scrimmage-notes.html
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  2. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    The starting OLine is holding a lot. The DL can't do anything when they're in a choke hold.

    I did see some DL busting through a couple of times with the 1st string, but it was obvious that they would pullup when they got anywhere near Romo. Somebody came free quickly on the right side but just basically took a knee when he got within a couple of feet of Romo.

    Two of the top 3 CBs were out. It was Scan, Mitchell and Webb in the Nickel and Webb might not even make the team.
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  3. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Hard to argue against this point.
  4. davey999

    davey999 Well-Known Member

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    It's going to be ugly...
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  5. noshame

    noshame Who wouldn't follow me? Zone Supporter

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    Yea, I believe this OL will be a top 5 unit and maybe a top three. But you can't take much away from a scrimmage, being a DL and not getting to smack the QB is like peeing in your wetsuit, sure it's fun for a while, but it get's old real quick.


    If you can't drive the QB into the ground like a tent stake, what's the point. After about five plays the "thrill" wears off and you drop to about 90%. We should get a decent look in game three.

    But I liked what I saw.
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  6. TX_Yid

    TX_Yid Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the front office felt they couldn't fix the whole DL this year. Lawrence was to be a step in the right direction, with a longer view of adding pieces for a truly competitive Defense in time for next year.

    They knew if we stuck with Hatcher and Ware we might be a little better off this year but a lot worse off next year when the whole thing would have to be blown up.
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  7. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    The point is to beat your man, not kill your own QB.

    If you are not winning the battles in a scrimmage, where your teammate blocking you has next to no bad intent and you still struggle, it should be concerning.

    This is not the first time I have read about the effort, and that is good, but eventually there needs to be some results.

    If the DL gets shut out against San Diego, there should be alarms going off.
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  8. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Or maybe they overestimated the returning talent again just like they did in 2013.

    We honestly came out of the draft with a single pass rushing end. Gardner and Bishop are more interior types.
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  9. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    Defense is going to be just as bad as last year.
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  10. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Just a few weeks ago, there was cautious optimism. And all it took was one injury to derail all of that.

    What happened to the idea that the return of Tyrone Crawford and Ben Bass would pay dividends?
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  11. Zordon

    Zordon Well-Known Member

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    they aren't pass rushers. Dlaw is the only quick twitch guy who can get to the qb.

    Plus a lot of my optimism died with Lee.
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  12. perrykemp

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    You can never discount the Ben Bass factor ;)

    Seriously though, I haven't heard much about Bass so far. Anybody have any insights on how he is doing?

    Sorta the same on Crawford. Haven't really heard anything on him either.
  13. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I've personally scouted this defensive line.

    They suck.
  14. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, once they cut Ware and didn't re-sign Hatcher they knew this would be a "building" year.

    If a few young guys can step up this season, they'll have cap space to fill in the talent gaps next year.
  15. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    That can happen when your GM and your VP of Personnel have no ability to evaluate talent.
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  16. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Ben Bass is doing how he wants to be doing and I'd advise you to never ask again.
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  17. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    I love Martin -- he looks like he is going to be a very good guard, however, I really question the team not investing a bit more into the front 7 on defense at this point.

    I know... hindsight is 20-20...
  18. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    A lot of that has to do with the optimism factor. Not worried, Crawford will be back. Maybe Spencer's microfracture pulls through. And how about that Martez Wilson, huh? Somebody thought he was good enough to spend a 3rd round pick on.
  19. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    I remember many comments from a youtube scout over the winter how he didn't have any quick twitch. Of course that changed on the evening of May 9th.

    Agreed. Lawrence is the only player on the roster who can be a legit weakside rush end. That is why that position should still be considered a need in the offseason.
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  20. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    The salary cap thing I understand, although I am confused at the same time because I thought we could do whatever we wanted in free agency.

    Once that did not pan out, the best course of action was to attack the end position more than trading a premium choice away to get one player. We spent just as many draft choices on backup special teams linebackers as DEs and that is being generous counting Gardner as a true end.
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