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Ward Churchill talks "justice"...

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by lewpac, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. lewpac

    lewpac Benched

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    A jury today said the U. of Colorado was wrong for firing him.

    He was awarded $1.00 in damages, and "getting his job back" is uncertain.

    Churchill cited "found by a jury", the "constitution", "first amendment rights", "justice", and the "rule of law" has prevailed..........................

    Churchill, indeed, was handed a "verdict" at the hands of the American Justice System.

    It's ironic that a guy who hates America so much, blames America for all the worlds ills, said that the victim of 911 "deserved it and had it coming", fakes that he's an American Indian, wishes for this country and it's systems to just go away for the betterment of all mankind, and just basically resents and detests the entire U.S. program........................

    It's ironic that NOW, SUDDENLY, he relies on this very Country's system to bail him out, and then has the nerve to speak of it's tenants and policy's in a good light, now that it worked in his favor.

    Suddenly, Churchill is grateful for, and backs his case, by applying the "American way" of doing things to cover his ugly tracks.

    Typical uber-left, socialist nutcase........................
  2. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    WC is an America hating SOB.
    A true example of what filth has infiltrated our education system.
    I already started with my school system and what they are teaching our kids.
    I encourage everyone here to get involved...destroy the malice at its very roots.
  3. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    A piece of garbage like that was a tenured professor at a state university. That says all you need to know about the US Educational System.
  4. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    [IMG]

    Don't feed the frauds, it's what keeps them alive.
  5. MetalHead

    MetalHead Benched

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    That's right my friends...that is the plan of attack.
    Let's go to the PTAs and demand to see what our children are taught,and change it.

    That's how pieces of amphibian excrement like Ward made it throught.Parents were asleep at the wheel!
    WE MUST STOP THIS!!!!

    Get involved with your children's education!
  6. lewpac

    lewpac Benched

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    Yeah, you're all correct of course...............

    But any thoughts about a guy who has no use for the United States (and that means in it's entirety), and then uses and basks in its justice system when it suits his whims?

    I'm sure it's lost on his ilk and his kind, the fact that NOW he's talking about "justice" and the "first amendment" and the "jury system", and how authoritative and final it is when a U.S. court speaks.

    He badmouths the very country that allows him to spew his gutter-snipe, and then runs to it for cover when he feels "persecuted".

    It's enough to make you wish for the days of a firing squad or hanging for insurrection or being a traitor........................
  7. irvin88

    irvin88 Active Member

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    He is a P.O.S.
  8. trickblue

    trickblue Old Testament... Zone Supporter

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    You are degrading the likes of Ted Kennedy calling him a POS... he is much worse...

    Hard to believe, but true...
  9. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    You know Artie, I have to disagree.

    You'll never find me defending Churchill's statements regarding 9/11, I think that he was 100% wrong and that he was subversive at a time when national unity was critical. However, differing opinions are necessary to our education system. That's one of the reasons that I, even as a non-Christian, believe that intelligent design should be taught in schools. I've always believed that education is more about teaching critical thinking skills than it is memorizing dates. If you take away the right of people like Churchill to voice their views, then you are hurting the educational system. Now I do think think that our young children have to be protected from indoctrination by their teachers. You can't have 3rd grade teachers who are grinding their point of view into children every day. However, in higher education, like the University of Colorado, I think that student's learning experiences are enhanced by ideas that challenge their beliefs.
  10. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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  11. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    So maso by your way of thinking then it would be no different if a holocaust denier was a professor teaching at the university. I mean its just a difference of opinion according to you, right?
  12. ninja

    ninja Numbnuts

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    :lmao: I picture is worth a thousand words.

    One Japanese friend of mine would laugh hysterically when Americans would swear and call people names. She thought it was so funny Americans calling another person a "freaking ****** bag." Language-wise, you can't say that in Japanese. It just doesn't translate.
  13. MetalHead

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    Maso,your logic suggest Charles Manson should too have a voice.
    I agree with different opinions should be considered,however,that is not the case.
    I'm glad you mentioned intelligent design in your post.I highly recommend you check out Ben Stein's "Expelled:No Intelligence Allowed" and find out what happens when intelligent design is even hinted at science classes in our universities.
    I beg you Maso,check that documentary.
  14. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I think WC is...well you seen the pic I posted:D , however he is entitled to his opinions. I would not even mind if he just had a discussion in his classes to spur debate but he was the type that would do too much of that and also was a low life with his other activities.

    With all of that being said, using Manson in that is far fetched IMO. To my knowledge this guy was not responsible for people's deaths. I get your point but just think that using manson was the wrong name to use.:cool:
  15. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Churchill traded for David Pearl would be fine..
  16. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Well no, Manson would have no qualifications to voice his opinions, especially in a classroom setting. Like I said in the Biden/Cocaine thread, I don't think that all opinions deserve consideration, some are more logically sound than others. Part of Churchill's post-9/11 comments addressed the issue of blowback, the idea that the attacks were fueled by our foreign policy and our military activities abroad. That is a topic worth discussing in my opinion.

    Of course, Churchill was incredibly disrespectful to those who were killed and I think that his reputation has been rightfull tarnished becuase of those comments.

    I will check out the documentary though, I've heard it mentioned before, thanks for reccomending it.
  17. Temo

    Temo Active Member

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    Stein lost a lot of credibility with this article he wrote in August 2007:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/business/yourmoney/12every.html?_r=1

    Not so much for the fact that he was completely wrong on everything he prognasticated, but that he had a stunning lack of knowledge about derivative markets and used lazy, half-***** analysis to desiminate supposedly expert opininion on such a public platform.

    As an economist, it's something like being a medical student reading an article by a noted Doctor saying that the Heart is not imperitive to human biological funtion. You're pretty sure he's wrong, but then you wonder how he could possibly be so wrong and how you can argue with such an authority.

    It was at once a baffling and confusing piece to read when it was first written-- and I was still a student then.
  18. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Well, like I said in my response to Artie, I don't think that all points of view are equally valid. There's no logical defense for the position of a holocaust denier. Some of the ideas behind Churchill's post 9/11 statement, specifically blow back, are intellectually valid and worth discussion. In fact, it's something often is discussed in political science classes.

    The rest of his statement was garbage and disrespectful.

    I'm going to leave it at that though, I don't agree with most of the stuff that Ward Churchill has said, so I don't want to seem like I'm defending him. I just think that professors have a duty to voice logically sound positions, even if that idea is contrary to popular belief and regardless of whether or not they are employed by a state school.
  19. JBond

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    He is more of a Jane Fonda. By the way she is being honored by Barbara Walters as one of 100 Greatest American Women.
  20. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    I wouldn't even put him in her category. But he is still an arrogant jerk.

    As far as 100 greatest American Women...screw that unless they add the word Traitor to the end of that title.

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