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Ware, No surgery scheduled

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by LatinMind, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. LatinMind

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    No elbow surgery scheduled for DeMarcus Ware
    Posted by Josh Alper on February 6, 2014, 8:28 AM EST
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    When the 2013 season came to an end for the Cowboys, defensive end DeMarcus Ware said that he would likely have arthroscopic surgery on his right elbow in hopes of avoiding the bothersome pain caused by bone fragments over the last two seasons.

    Ware put off surgery last offseason as he chose to get his shoulder repaired surgically instead and chose to rest the elbow. While that didn’t take care of the issue once and for all, David Moore of the Dallas Morning News reports that no surgery has been scheduled at this point either. Ware’s expected to have the elbow examined later this month and a decision will be made on how to proceed at that point.

    The elbow injury is one of several aches and pains that have nagged Ware over the last couple of years, including a quad injury that forced him to miss games for the first time in his career last season. All of those injuries have limited Ware’s practice time, something coach Jason Garrett wants to see change in 2014 whether or not Ware winds up having an operation on his elbow.

    Another change could be coming to Ware’s contract. He’s due to make $26 million over the next two years and the combination of Ware’s diminished production in 2013 and the team’s overall cap condition make it something that may be revisited this offseason. Ware’s not thought to be open to a pay cut, though, which would mean pushing more money into either 2015 or future seasons if the two sides agreed on an extension.

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  2. LatinMind

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    IDK how i feel about this. Love the guy but its hard to root for him staying in Dallas with this contract. Id rather have Dallas roll with a rookie and have 10mil of cap space right off the bat for 2015 as of right now. And add whatever raise the cap will have with this new tv deal to that 10 mil and whatever is rolled over from this yr.
  3. StarBoyz83

    StarBoyz83 Well-Known Member

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    We could get a guy twice as productive for less than half of what he makes but hes going to retire a cowboy. At this point it doesnt really matter. Dallas is not going to be a contender in the next 5 years. Might as well let him finish here.
  4. LatinMind

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    doubt it. Next yr with a restructure this yr his cap will be 20mil. He wont be a Cowboy in 2015 unless he gets 20 sacks
  5. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    I like the guy too and he's prolly got a couple good season still left in him but they may not come in the 4-3 defense. He's still a very good player but he shouldn't be kept just because he MIGHT become dominant again. It is time to start setting the table for 015, it'll be then before this team has some real depth and the youngsters will be becoming the vets.
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  6. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    You're right, StarBoyz is overstating reality. But it is difficult but easy choice to make with Ware. He's declined for two years in a row and has been beset with nagging injuries. And he's due a ton of money. He very well might turn in a string of good seasons for a while yet, it's still not worth the risk. It was a decent bet when the contract was signed that we'd have until 2015 to make the tough call, but his play fell off a cliff out of nowhere. He's not worth what we've committed to next year, and he needs to convert some of his guaranteed money into a performance bonus for this year and next, or we need to let him go, wish him the best, and look for another huge-impact DL that we don't currently have anyplace on this roster.
  7. Zordon

    Zordon Infinite Crab Meats...

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    What is he waiting for?
  8. LatinMind

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    I agree. Without this surgery he;s going to be playing with the discomfort he said he played with this yr. I just dont get it. Time to move on.
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  9. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It's probably just a scope if he does have it. The kind of thing that's completely healed in a month or so. It probably doesn't matter when he does it, as long as it's before camp. Maybe he just doesn't want to have another surgery on his list when he goes into the early renegotiating talks with the Cowboys this offseason. :)
  10. Little Jr

    Little Jr Well-Known Member

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    So the season ended 6 weeks ago and he still hasn't decided but he can ski the slopes with buddies? Smh
  11. SDCowboy85

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    I'm still hoping he gets released.
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  12. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    His contract is nothing. Just create more room. No need to worry about it.........
  13. SDCowboy85

    SDCowboy85 Well-Known Member

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    How is his contract nothing? Reworking his contract just pushes the current problem back.
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  14. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    He's trying to riff on Stephen Jones saying that we can work within the context of our current cap situation. Despite the fact that the thread is actually about Ware's productivity drop relative to his contract and nobody from the organization ever said it is a good idea to just pay for underperformance.
  15. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Here's the thing......there is no current problem.


    I'm being sarcastic, btw.
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  16. morasp

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    Take a lesson from the Colts and Freeney and move on. Irsay may say some pretty stupid things on twitter but the Colts are already making playoff appearances post Manning.
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  17. Hoofbite

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    They don't have to say it.

    Disproportionately allocating cap dollars to years when players are older, slower, and have accrued more injuries throughout their career is pretty much a willingness to accept it.

    Who couldn't have foreseen DeMarcus Ware being less effective at 31 and 32 than he was at 27 and 28?

    Now the team gets to either pay for underperformance, pay (the cap, as a result of dead money) for NO performance, or beg one of the greatest players the team has had to take a pay cut after a season of down production.
  18. bkight13

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    Ware has made great money and has performed great. Those days are over. He needs to take a serious pay cut. He will either have to play for less here or somewhere else. If Dallas restructures with no pay cut, then they have learned nothing from their past mistakes. If Dallas wants to break out of their mediocre cycle, they have to start taking chances on younger guys and forget about the brand and the Ring of Honor. It's a lot to ask, but it has to be done.

    They have been drafting better and trying not to rely heavily on FAs is a good thing. Locking up guys like Dez, TSmith, Scandrick, Lee and Church is the way to spend the money. Go after FAs that are coming off their rookie deals or cheap vets that can fill a specific hole for a year or two.
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  19. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Please move on from Demaecus Where? Get someone young in here. He was barely more noticeable than guys laying on their couch last season.
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  20. bbailey423

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    I know I sound like a broken record on this topic. But that is because we do the SAME thing (with the same results I might add) in these situations all the time. The questions are simeple to me at this point. Have we ever won WITH him? No. Has he ever been the difference between making a Super Bowl run or not making one? No. The number of playoff wins we have with him having BIG seasons or LITTLE seasons are the same. Is he worth the money he is scheduled to make? No. Has he ALREADY been paid a king ransoms since 2005 to deliver ZIP? Yes. So it sounds pretty simple to me. We have MORE than enough evidence on what we should do about this situation. Either take a paycut....or get cut!

    There should only be ONE....ONE untouchable veteran core player on this team....that is the QB. It is the hardest position to fill in sports. The cap hit is unmanageable if we cut him. And he happens to be the most productive player on the team. Everyone else would be under consideration if other teams approached us to talk trade.

    Now of course the young guns (Tyron Smith, Mo Claiborne, Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Travid Frederick, Escobar) all should get a chance to prove they can be a solid foundation for the future. But the older core of this team has shown what they can do....and it has produced one of the most over hyped underwhelming era of Cowboy football since the 70s. I feel nothing towards these so called "core" players. And I know the Romo, WIttens, Ware's etc will be in the Ring of Honor one day....and I will feel nothing when they are inducted. What fond memories have they produced?

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