From reading this forum, it seems that the majority of people think that we need to find a pass rusher that is capable of getting 10+ sacks a year, regardless of other value that they may provide in other areas (run support, coverage, etc.) I've spent the past couple of days watching some game film of Upshaw and Ingram to see how they compared to Ware, or to see if they are more like Spencer (which I have been saying for over a month). Ware was 6'4 260 lbs coming out of college, and was not a bulky player. In fact, scouts were concerned about his lack of bulk and the possible impact it could have on his effectiveness as an 3 down defensive end. What he lacked for in bulk, he made up for in speed and agility. Lets look at his combine results from 2005... 40-Yard Dash: 4.56 (1st out of DE) 3-Cone Drill: 6.85 (1st out of DE) 20-Yard Shuttle: 4.07 (1st out of DE) Bench Press: 27 Vertical: 38.5 Broad Jump: 122 Until we see the results from Upshaw and Ingram, we won't know how they compare. But, when I watch highlights from these guys, neither really sticks out as a great pass rusher. For comparison sake, lets look at what Spencer did for his combine workouts. Weighed in at 6'3 261. 40-Yard Dash: 4.7 (8th out of DE) 3-Cone Drill: 7.14 (no rankings) 20-Yard Shuttle: 4.43 (no rankings) Bench Press: 30 Vertical: 32.5 Broad Jump: 112 Based on their combine results, there are huge differences between these two players. I honestly feel that Upshaw and Ingram will be closer to Spencer than Ware and from what I have seen on film, there isn't a much difference in terms of production over their careers and measureables (although based on personality I would rather have Ingram who compares himself to Ray Lewis). From what I've read, scouts like to see DE in the 4.6 range for the 40 if they want to switch to OLB in a 3-4. Right now, NFL Draft Scout has these ranges for both Upshaw and Ingram Upshaw: 4.65-4.85 Ingram: 4.72-4.94 I'd have to agree with these numbers after watching film. They are just thick-bodied and look slow. However, there are other pass rushers that are borderline first rounders that could be there in the 2nd as well. Chandler Jones: 4.64-4.87 Nick Perry: 4.52-4.76 Bruce Irvin: 4.43-4.65 Vinny Curry: 4.63-4.85 Whitney Mercilus: 4.58-4.79 Ronnell Lewis: 4.52-4.75 I just wanted to give some numbers that we can look for once the combine rolls around. I'm sure I'll hear that the NFL combine isn't worth a damn, but as of right now, I just wanted to give some objective information that we can use to compare the players and evaluate what we really want from an OLB position if Spencer is gone. Have any suggestions, I'm always open to hear 'em!