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Was Marinelli always the target?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by LatinMind, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    With the time you have spent getting upset at me doubting your claim, you could have already found the evidence for your assertion.
  2. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    Doubt a claim fine.

    Don't say I made it up.

    You know the difference and are simply trying to be a jerk
  3. Hoofbite

    Hoofbite Well-Known Member

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    Essentially hiring Kiffin just for Rod but with no guarantee of Marinelli ever arriving.

    Be an odd route.
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  4. CyberB0b

    CyberB0b Village Idiot

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    If it's true, then Jerry has really lost it, especially since Rod was already available.
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  5. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    "I heard it on Talking Cowboys" - no bias to plant a story
  6. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Defies all logic, huh. 65 year old guy needs to be behind his one of two friends or mentors.
  7. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    I thought he was working for Chicago still and Trest wanted to retain him and he said no after Lovie had gotten the boot.

    If Jerry did hire Kiff to get him Jerry is the ultimate salesman. It's like courting a girl, but you let the mom fall in love with you first and then you're in!
  8. Bluestang

    Bluestang Well-Known Member

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    Lacewell is the only person that I know who was involved in scouting Monte Kiffin at USC practices.

    This whole Parcells idea is entirely new.

    The other odd thing about this Parcells thing is, he was primarily a 34 guy. Their defenses are entirely different philosophies...just doesn't make sense
  9. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    You know I'm always going to give you random likes only because of your constantly reminding me of how hot Mya is.
    That woman could have launched a thousand ships...
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  10. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Yup. I remember the article clearly and immediately had misgivings.
    Lacewell is almost a dirty word around here and I can understand why, but I ask: did this guy have some great reputation before Jerry began leaning on him? Who was this guy?
  11. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    So again what I recall is Jerry mentioning that when they saw Kiffin at the Senior Bowl the year we drafted Ware that Bill said to him something like "now that guy is great coach." Again I recall Jerry mentioning this at a press conference - either one I listened to or read a transcript of.

    That in no way means that was the only factor in his hiring.

    Parcels being a 3-4 guy is not relevant. Being a 3-4 guy doesn't mean you think all 4-3 guys are idiots. Further, I never said he told Jerry to hire him or suggested he'd be a good fit. Only that Bill may have planted a seed way back
  12. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Well-Known Member

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    And their info came from where? They don't have to be biased to latch onto spin they are fed
  13. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I believe it.

    Sometimes a persons posting should give them the benefit of the doubt.
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  14. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Its the basis for the motivation

    I believe nothing Mickey says is impartial and not planted. So anything coming from the "organization" I would hope would be corroborated by an external source.

    Likewise, I don't believe Crayton and Holly when they accuse Garrett of sabotaging Wade and changing the game plan the day after he was canned.
  15. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    It makes you wonder how the Saints overcame Ryan's organization and coaching to turn around and become a top defense last year.

    :rolleyes:
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  16. Donny Phoenix

    Donny Phoenix Active Member

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    Ive mentioned it here repeatedly, i believe they hired the architect(kiffin) to install the defense in year 1 and wanted the star pupil(marinelli) already on staff to promote him in year 2 to run it. I do think year 1 of the Tampa2 went a lot worse than anyone expected it would go.
  17. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    That much is true--the results were bad last season. Though I think injury played a lot into it.

    I'm not sure what the plan was with the whole Kiffin/Marinelli thing in the first place. It was a weird move, either way. Either bringing in Kiffin and then replacing him, or bringing him in with the idea of phasing him out.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter all that much. I'm glad we're back in the 4-3, because I hated the 3-4 in Dallas. I do love what CHI does defensively, and like what SEA's doing. If we're copying that, I can get on board with it. Assuming, of course, we can get the players.
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  18. CCBoy

    CCBoy Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes at those ages in coaching, the battery just goes into empty, He has a reduced role, and Rod Marrinelli is now seen barking and cursing on the field. That's just the nature of that beast.
  19. Common Sense

    Common Sense Well-Known Member

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    The plan was to bring in Kiffin. That plan backfired. Now there's a new DC. Simple as that.
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  20. Frozen700

    Frozen700 Well-Known Member

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    hahaha!!!!
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