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Was Russia's 'Hijacked' Ship Carrying Missiles to the Mideast?

Discussion in 'Political Zone' started by vta, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    Why Comrade what have you been doing?

    The official explanation coming out of Moscow is simple enough: the Arctic Sea, manned by a Russian crew, set sail from Finland under a Maltese flag on July 22. It was destined for Algeria and carried less than $2 million worth of timber. Then a group of eight Russian and former Soviet hijackers boarded the ship on July 24. The ship's tracking device was disabled in the last days of July, as it passed through the English Channel into the Atlantic, and the ship disappeared. On Aug. 12, the Russian navy sent out a search party. A week later, Russia declared that the ship and its crew had been rescued.

    But as details of the hijacking emerged, the tale got murkier, and Moscow's explanation does little to clear things up. Why, with so many other ships carrying much more valuable cargo, would the hijackers target the Arctic Sea and its small load of timber? Why didn't the ship send out a distress signal? Why did Israeli President Shimon Peres pay a surprise visit to Russia a day after the ship was rescued? Why did Russia wait so long to send its navy to find the ship? And what did the brother of one of the alleged hijackers, Dmitri Bartenev, mean when he told Estonian TV on Aug. 24 that his brother and the other suspected pirates had been "set up ... They went to find work and ended up in a political conflict. Now they are hostage to some kind of political game"? Bartenev's lawyer tells TIME that his client was "in the wrong place at the wrong time."

    There are also questions surrounding the Arctic Sea's rescue. On orders from the Kremlin, Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov sent a completely disproportionate force, including destroyers and submarines, to look for the vessel. It took five days for them to find it, the Defense Ministry said, even though the Foreign Ministry later announced that it was fully aware of the Arctic Sea's coordinates the entire time. To fly the alleged pirates and the crew back to Moscow — a group of only 19 men — Russia dispatched two enormous military-cargo planes. And then on their arrival, the ship's crew was detained along with the alleged hijackers for days of questioning, with no access to their families or the media.

    "Even from the basic facts, without assumptions, it is clear that this was not just piracy," says Mikhail Voitenko, editor of the Russian maritime journal Sovfrakht, which has been tracking unusual incidents on the high seas for decades. "I've never seen anything like this. These are some of the most heavily policed waters in the world. You cannot just hide a ship there for weeks without government involvement."
  2. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    The Rutskies are up to something but the real question that is bothering me is this...


    What is that in your avatar?
  3. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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  4. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    You've never seen 200: A Space Odyssey?
  5. ShiningStar

    ShiningStar Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I can say ive never seen that as well.
  6. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Me neither.

    But I loved Elvis intro with 2001...Space Odyssey. :D
  7. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    Geez, I forgot the '1'.
    Anyway, I'm a Kubrick nut so I saw all of it. Speaking of Ruskies, check out Dr. Strangelove, a very funny crack on the Cold War. George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden and Peter Sellers are all great in it.
  8. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    Paths of Glory is one of my favorite Kubrick flicks.
  9. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    I find it hard to pick a fave, as I love all of them.

    It might be The Shining, which is the first Kubrick I saw at 12 years old and was just blown away. It could Barry Lyndon, very long, slow and beautifully filmed. Only 13 films and most are just too great to pick one over the other.
  10. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    Great movie. But then I think Peter Sellers is a riot.
  11. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    Yeah he was. Great stuff.
    Have you seen Lolita? He's great in that too.
  12. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    I even hijacked my own thread with this Kubrick business...
  13. Cajuncowboy

    Cajuncowboy Preacher From The Black Lagoon

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    No...
  14. ShiningStar

    ShiningStar Well-Known Member

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    are all these movies?
  15. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    :laugh2:

    Yes. Very good ones, I think.
  16. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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  17. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Your dating yourself Boss. It's a fight we can not win.

    :laugh2:
  18. vta

    vta The Proletariat

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    :laugh2:

    Hey I didn't say I saw it when it was released, I just saw it. I was born the year it was released.

    I am getting up there, no doubt.
  19. masomenos

    masomenos Less is more

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    That's funny because I was born closer to the year 2001 than I was to the release of the movie.

    :D

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