Discussion in 'Off-topic Zone' started by JBond, Jan 10, 2013.
true, what is the worst generation?
the one right after you.
Constructive criticism or not being in agreement is "hatin" = excuse to dismiss it even if its true. It just a very childish way of looking at things.
Yeah, that's what I said.
He can Count, but he sure can't read.
I'm not sure why, I've challenged myself to do just the same.
considering the convos we've had in the past I'd challenge you to look harder
and boom, boom, boom, boom
Plenty of great kids out there, but on average all of that is lacking in many ways, some things worse than others.
It's all the same people though. The "society" and the govt that you blame are just collections of the same people who I referred to as parents. Over 80 percent of American adults have a biological child. They shape culture by what they buy, government by who they vote for, and children by how they parent. "Parents" are not some magical group separate from the rest of society.
To say that the parents are innocent and society is guilty is to spread blame around, not to move it to a different group.
I'm not blaming parents for everything, but I find discussions about the failings of an entire generation suspect. My point was never that one generation is way worse than another. It was to point out that acting like each generation is a unique entity in a vacuum is pointless. Each generation is in some ways responsible for the character of the next and for the problems that the next generation faces.
Yeah, the entire PC movement really hurt this country.
Also a lot of this should be on parents. There are parents out there that have no business being in the position. But our society says marrying and having kids is the way of life, without questioning if you really want or can have a child. And in turn, we're left with kids that aren't properly disciplined and get their views and opinions from shoddy sources
This post certainly explains a lot . . . . . . . .
What about narcissism in those who have made a career out of forum posting?
This is a very enlightening post. Seems to confirm the original thoughts expressed in the article. Thank you.
The "it's not my fault" syndrome. I do agree there are many parents that have done a poor job. The wussification of America and the out of control government are tied together. The same losers are responsible for both.
The same people that tell me I am not allowed to discipline my kid are the same ones supporting and encouraging the Occupy losers. The same D-bags that have been incapable of passing a budget in years are the same ones that cry about fairness and punish achievement.
You are correct that some people have driven this country into the ditch. You just need to be clear about who did it.
Anybody who makes a career out of speaking...bloggers, journalists, writers, teachers, public speakers, etc.... have to be egotistical in some sense. The whole premise of that field is that "I have something to say, and you need to hear it." That doesn't mean that those people have to be narcissistic all the time, but having a strong sense of self and a bit of an ego is necessary to thrive in those areas.
This is caused by poor parenting. Every parent wants their kids to have a better life than they had. The problem is that parents try to give them that life instead of having the kids earn it. Another thing that causes this is parents thinking their kids are special. No, their kids are average kids. Quit telling them they are special and teach them tp be special. Raise them with manners and respect for others. Make them earn the special label. These kids think they are special and they expect the world to treat them that way without them earning anything. This is the "me" generation and it is not a good thing. It is a generation of selfish, lazy, disrespectfull know-it-alls that thinks the world owes them something.
You're missing the point.
"Then it's the old people's fault" is a deliberate overstatement. The point is that each generation impacts the next. The failings of one cultivate the failings in the next.
If you think the world has gone to crap, and you think "kids today" are terrible. Then you have no one to blame but your own generation. Mine just got here.
Thanks for responding. I do not believe today's kids are terrible. It's not all or nothing. Not all kids are terrible, but a lot of them have no idea what it takes to be successful in life because they they do not face consequences for their actions. Many parents are quick to blame poor teachers for poor grades etc. Everyone gets a trophy and on and on.
The lack of personal responsibility is appalling in this country and much of it is generational. Just look at the amount we spend on handouts. That number is skyrocketing for a reason. Things are not improving, they are getting dramatically worse.
So, assuming you are a young guy based on your original post, what do you propose to to get us back on track?
Let me ask you guys who are so delusional here something that might clear things up?
Education was brought up for example. What states have the best education in the country? It certainly isn't the liberal PC states right?
You know that you are opening a can of political worms. Why go there?
There are too many angles this sort of discussion can ricochet off in to and just degrade into a situation where people get offended and it just ends up in argument.
It becomes a generational blame fest and personal aspects of the problem are focused on and argued against.
Anyone can blame movie's, music, video games, parents singuarly and each aspect comes with a compelling counter argument.
If someone blames the prior generation, they're correct. Up to a point. If someone blames entertainment, they're correct. Up to a point. If someone blames education they're correct, up to a point. The point is all of these things are not working independently, all together they form to distract, divide and eventually conquer.
An honest evaluation will see everyone offended, with no exceptions. Me, you, our parents, etc. But part of this generations problem is it's reluctance to accept being offended.
No one can argue against where we sit as a nation: highly divided, losing influence, losing money, losing the original purpose of education and losing our peace. That's not the condition of an ascending civilization.