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Week 9 Draft Order

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hostile, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    0-7
    1. Bills

    1-6
    2. Cowboys .551
    3. Panthers .569

    2-6
    4. 49ers .513
    5. Broncos .542

    2-5
    6. Vikings .509
    7. Lions .517
    8. Bengals .553
    9. Browns .561

    3-5
    10. Chargers

    3-4
    11. Cardinals

    4-4
    12. Rams .454
    13. Jaguars .492
    14. Raiders .500
    15. Redskins .517

    4-3
    16. Bears .42
    17. Seahawks .475
    18. Eagles .492
    19. Dolphins .504
    20. Texans .550

    5-3
    T21. Saints .456
    T21. Packers .456
    23. Titans .529

    5-2
    24. Chiefs .418
    25. Giants .462
    26. Jets .465
    27. Buccaneers .470
    28. Ravens .482
    29. Falcons .496
    30. Steelers .504
    31. Colts .517

    6-1
    Patriots
  2. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    Not to say your wrong, but I heard that Carolina was ahead of us on the waiver priority list.
  3. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    That list is based off of last year's results, not this year's.

    Draft order is based off of this year's record, and the number 1 tie breaker is opponent winning %. The lower the % the higher the draft pick.
  4. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    From what I understand, up untill week 5 or 6, the waiver wire is based on last years records, but when talking about Randy Moss, the radio station I was listening to said the waiver wire is Buffalo, Carolina, Dallas, Denver (I think it was denver, definately carolina before us). They may be wrong, not sure.
  5. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    Found this

    Seems you made a slight error, Carolina's opponents are a combined 27-25, while ours are 28-23, you may have included teams we haven't played yet, while for waiver purposes, they only include teams you have played. If so, certainly good news for us
  6. Hostile

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    The Draft is based off of opponents for the entire year. So my order is more correct because every opponent will factor into the final order.

    There is no error, my order is correct.
  7. Manwiththeplan

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    I almost feel bad wanting Dallas to get the #1 pick, but I think being that much of a train wreck, can quickly turn us around. Imagine if a new CBA, with a rookie pay sacle is reached. We could get so much in return for moving from #1 to #3 or even just as much for going from #2 to #3. At minimum, we could end up with the #3 pick in round 1, the #1 and #3 pick in round 2 and a future first rounder.
  8. Hostile

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    I do not want #1. 3 to 5 would be fine if we keep losing.

    I think 12 to 15 would be almost ideal given our needs.

    Until we win some games, Patrick Peterson is my choice.
  9. Hostile

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    My stab at a 1st round mock for these teams without playoff considerations.

    0-7
    1. Bills...Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford

    1-6
    2. Cowboys .551...Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
    3. Panthers .569...Marcell Darius, D, Alabama

    2-6
    4. 49ers .513...Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
    5. Broncos .542...Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

    2-5
    6. Vikings .509...Jake Locker, QB, Washington
    7. Lions .517...A. J. Green, WR, Georgia
    8. Bengals .553...Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
    9. Browns .561...Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

    3-5
    10. Chargers...Robert Quinn, OLB, North Carolina

    3-4
    11. Cardinals...Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas

    4-4
    12. Rams .454...Jonathon Baldwin, WR, North Carolina
    13. Jaguars .492...Ras I. Dowling, CB, Virginia
    14. Raiders .500...Adrian Clayborn, D, Iowa
    15. Redskins .517...De Quann Bowers, DE, Clemson

    4-3
    16. Bears .452...Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
    17. Seahawks .475...Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Alabama
    18. Eagles .492...Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
    19. Dolphins .504...Allen Bailey, DE, Miami
    20. Texans .550...Janoris Jackson, CB, Florida

    5-3
    T21. Saints .456...Akeem Aayers, DE, UCLA
    T21. Packers .456...Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
    23. Titans .529...Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

    5-2
    24. Chiefs .418...Justin Houston, D, Georgia
    25. Giants .462...Brandon Burton, CB, Utah
    26. Jets .465...Von Miller, DE, Texas A & M
    27. Buccaneers .470...Anthony Costanzo, O, Boston College
    28. Ravens .482...Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina
    29. Falcons .496...Ryan Williams, RB, Va Tech
    30. Steelers .504...Jerrell Powe, NT, Ol Miss
    31. Colts .517...Joseph Barksdale, OT, LSU

    6-1
    Patriots...Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
  10. NeonDeion21

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    The Patriots have the Raiders 1st Round Pick due to the Richard Seymour trade a few years back.
  11. CanuckCowboysFan

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    I want Deunta Williams so bad. If we keep losing, it'll be impossible to land him.
  12. The Realist

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    He's not going to fall to top of 2?
  13. Hostile

    Hostile Peace Zone Supporter

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    He and Patrick Peterson are my top 2 hopes right now. I would take Peterson over him because of Newman's age, and I would move Newman to FS.
  14. cowboyjoe

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    i want # 1 overall!

    Why, either we can take Luck, possible future probowler, Hall of Famer, or if a sweet trade is offered, we can trade down 3 spots or so. And still get an impact player.

    Another reason why I want # 1 overall is this:
    What if there is no CBA collective bargaining agreeement, which could mean no NFL in 2011.

    I dont know how the 2012 draft would be figured out, but if it is based off of won-loss records, we might have back to back # 1 overall pick. If we trade down alittle in 2011, but still get a top player, and get another top player in the 2nd round, possibly 2 top 2nd rounders or 2 top 3rd rounders.

    Then, that fills this team with obvious needs. Most of the time, when your picking in top 5 of the draft from 1st round to 4th round, you generally get good players.

    Then, if we dont take that first overall pick, but have the first overall pick in 2012 because of no NFL due to no CBA, then we can get what other impact player we need. Even if we trade down again, and pick up another top 2nd or 3rd rounder, we still come out ahead, with top impact players in 2 straight years.

    This is partly how the Cowboys were built in mid 70s with Randy White, Ed Jones, Tony Dorsett, with 2nd rounders as follows, which allows you to take some gambles now and then.

    74 draft
    1. ed jones
    3 danny white

    75 draft
    1. randy white
    1. thomas henderson
    2. burton lawless, wasnt a great player but filled bill for a couple of yrs
    3. bob breunig
    4. pat donovan
    4. randy hughes, injury prone, but made big plays in 77 superbowl

    77 draft
    1. tony dorsett
    3. tony hill
    we traded a boat load of # 2's etc to seattle for dorsett, those picks seattle used didnt work out too well for seattle

    Point, im trying to make, with top picks in those years, we made some great picks, because we were picking high, this loaded us up for superbowl runs, with impact star players, for superbowls in 75, 77, 78

    Same thing in 90s
    89 draft
    1. troy aikman
    2. daryl johnston
    3. mark stepnoski
    4. tony tolbert

    90 draft
    1. emmitt smith
    3 jimmy jones, decent player that helped our defen line rotation & pass rush

    91 draft
    1. russell maryland
    1. alvin harper
    2. dixon edwards
    3. godfrey myles decent player
    3.erik williams

    92 draft
    1. kevin smith
    1. robert jones, never did like him
    2. jimmy smith, gave up on him too soon
    2. darren woodson
    3. clayton holmes decent player


    So, let me state it again, I want that # 1 overall pick, where we the Dallas Cowboys are calling the shots in the NFL, another thing to remember, since draft will be held covering 3 days, then you have top pick in each round, so the next day, someone may want a player that slipped through, and you may get another sweet deal to trade down a little, but if its a player you want that slipped through, then you take that player, but you have option of either staying where you are, or moving down alittle and getting another 3rd or 4th rounder. YOU can rebuild your team that way quickly, with having top overall draft picks in each round. You may even get a number one pick the following year, , plus some teams top 2nd rounder for trading your overall pick in 2nd round and moving down some if you have that top overall pick.

    Your in control of the draft!

    So, YES! I want that # 1 overall pick.
  15. CanuckCowboysFan

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    I really doubt he will.
  16. CanuckCowboysFan

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    Well If I were to pick between Deunta and Peterson, it's Peterson by a longshot. Both are great, but Peterson is going to be exceptional.
  17. realtick

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    Some folks on here are way overrating Deunta Williams value. He's definitely got 2nd or 3rd rounder written all over him.

    Not sure where all this love for him is coming from. He's going to have to blow it up the remainder of the season to jump up.
  18. CanuckCowboysFan

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    Lol, have you even seen him play? Or did you type in Deunta Williams stats on google and see that he has 0 INT's this year? I'm guessing both. He's missed 2 or 3 games to begin with, so stats are misleading.

    And if you've even seen him play you'd see that you're sooo soooo wrong. I've watched about 2 of his games this year and in those games he's been DOMINANT. This guy NEVER gets beat deep. Even his first few years at UNC, he never got beat deep. It's not all about picks. He's always in the right position, he's fluid, fast and can HIT.

    And most scouting services have him as the #1 safety and a first round pick. Not sure where you got that he's a 2nd or 3rd rounder, unless that was IYO

    I know his last game he dropped a pick against William and Mary and another time a penalty was called. So stats ain't everything.
  19. realtick

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    Yeah, I've actually seen him play and more than just the two games you've watched him play. He's actually missed the first four games of the season due to suspension.

    Have you watched him play extensively, or are you just watching some video clips off of YouTube?

    He's a solid prospect but not much better than the Chip Vaughn's and Reshad Jones of the world IMO.

    It is my opinion he'll be a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Exactly where are you projecting him? Care to make a gentlemen's bet?

    Also, you're silly to be quoting "most scouting services" at this point. If you follow the draft process, half of those players they have listed as potential first rounders won't even be taken in the 1st round. Likely half of the players they have listed in the Top 10 won't be drafted there.
  20. realtick

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    BTW, in the game against Clemson, he gave up an 85-yard TD in the 4th qtr and also made a poor attempt at an open field tackle near the goaline for a score.

    So he does appear human.

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