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What do you guys make of Church?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TTexasTT, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    With the D playing so poorly its really hard to guage safety play. He seems to make many plays but with the rest of the players looking terrible it makes it hard to evaluate his play.
  2. Jenky

    Jenky Well-Known Member

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    He's playing poorly also. I think Wilcox is actually playing better.
  3. RXP

    RXP Well-Known Member

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    Church is a pretty good tackler and is decent when he plays in the box.

    But he is a liability in space. Doesn't have the range or speed to cover even average receivers. And is way too slow to play Monte Kiffen's system.
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  4. TonyRomo17

    TonyRomo17 Well-Known Member

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    he should be a lb
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  5. TheCoolFan

    TheCoolFan Well-Known Member

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    He's not the answer. But knowing Jerry and his history, he will crown him with a long-term contract because he loves these "diamond in the rough" players like Miles and Ratliff and it will continue to set us back.
  6. Pessimist_cowboy

    Pessimist_cowboy Well-Known Member

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    He is a great 3rd safety / short yardage safety . He lacks some man to man coverage though .
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  7. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    lol
  8. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    Would have been a pro-bowl safety in the 80s or 90s. His type of safety is slowly becoming extinct in the NFL for all sorts of reasons.

    It's too bad.
  9. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    Elaborate on that, if you dont mind.
  10. Plankton

    Plankton Well-Known Member

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    Church is a good run support safety with decent instincts, but no range in coverage.

    His ceiling in today's NFL is a special teams stalwart and nickel LB.
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  11. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    He plays the position tremendously physical. Big hitter, great tackling ability, etc.

    Before it became essentially illegal to hit WRs hard and try to dislodge the ball, safeties like Church were celebrated.

    The problem with that is today's rules are forcing the safety position into essentially something closer to CBs. The ability to cover is paramount and I just don't see Church being able to line up against top RBs, TEs, or even occasional slot WRs.
  12. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    I think he just has too much on his plate since he's the only "vet" they have. If they ever find a true FS I think he could be very solid.
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  13. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    ahh... makes sense. Thanks.
    Perhaps even guys like Atwater and Lott wouldnt have as much success these days either.

    Ya know, I had hopes Dallas would take Ray Ray Armstrong as a undrafed FA but he was picked up by the Rams and immediately converted to LB. This also makes more sense now.
  14. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    It was great I actually said a prayer for the 'boys. Lol, naw we need a playmaker @ safety.
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  15. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    I C WAT U DID dere
  16. Gameover

    Gameover Well-Known Member

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    Barkley's favorite word !
  17. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    I honestly feel its too hard to gauge him being he doesn't have a suitable safety next to him back there.......
  18. Howboutdemcowboys31

    Howboutdemcowboys31 Well-Known Member

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    Church to me is a good place to go and pray Garrett gets fired
  19. TheFinisher

    TheFinisher Well-Known Member

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    He's not the answer at safety despite how bad the team and some fans want him to be.
  20. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    touche'
    Jokes on you though. Ive been sacrificing goats by the dozen to keep JG in his position.



    I wouldnt say hes the answer either but hes pretty damn far down the list of problems at this point.

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