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What Is Behind Anti-Hillary Sentiment?

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  1. CowboyPrincess

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    November 28, 2007

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/102907/What-Behind-AntiHillary-Sentiment.aspx
    Actual graphs of results are at the Gallup website for your viewing pleasure

    What Is Behind Anti-Hillary Sentiment?

    Basic dislike, policy disagreements, character concerns commonly mentioned

    by Jeffrey M. Jones

    PRINCETON, NJ -- Hillary Clinton's status as a candidate for president in 2008 is certainly contributing to the widespread interest in the campaign. Even sitting vice presidents who sought the office did not have nearly as universal name recognition as Clinton, and few candidates have ever begun the campaign with such polarized ratings. Much of the discussion in both the Democratic and Republican nomination campaigns has centered on the candidates' attempts to derail the Clinton White House Express.

    But what exactly is driving the attitudes of those who have negative views of the former first lady and current senator from New York? To help answer that question, a recent USA Today/Gallup poll explored in detail the views of Americans who can be considered Clinton detractors. These are defined as the 44% of registered voters who say they definitely would not vote for Clinton for president in 2008. This anti-Clinton group was then asked to explain in their own words why they would not vote for her.

    The most common specific explanation given -- simple dislike of her -- is probably also the most basic, mentioned by 25% of Clinton nonsupporters. Bill Clinton is also on the minds of many of his spouse's opponents -- 13% mention their dislike of him or disapproval of his presidency as a reason for not supporting his wife for president.

    Policy disagreements figure prominently in Clinton detractors' reasoning. Seventeen percent mention general disagreement with her on issues, in addition to the relatively small percentages who cite specific disagreements with her on healthcare, Iraq, and immigration. Along the same lines, 6% describe her more generally as a "radical" or "socialist" and 5% say she is "too liberal." Four percent cite her Democratic Party affiliation as a reason they would not vote for her.

    There are also several character concerns with Clinton, including perceived dishonesty, a lack of the proper experience to be president, and the notion that she is a "flip-flopper" who takes issue positions that are politically expedient.

    Looked at differently, Clinton detractors are about equally likely to give a reason falling into one of the three broad categories of responses described above -- basic dislike of her or her husband (35%), policy disagreements (39%), and character concerns (34%).

    One response that doesn't quite fit those broad categories -- mentioned by 8% of Clinton nonsupporters -- involves reservations about a woman being elected president. This includes respondents who say they personally don't favor a woman in the role, as well as those who perceive the country is not ready for a female in the highest elected office.

    Views of the Bush-Clinton Dynasty

    The poll also asked respondents for their views on the possibility of the continuation of a Bush family-Clinton family White House succession pattern. If Hillary Clinton is elected in 2008, a Bush or a Clinton will have served as president for six consecutive presidential terms or 24 years by the end of Clinton's first term.

    A majority thinks a continuation of the Bush-Clinton dynasty in the Oval Office would not make much difference to the country. Those who think it would have a negative impact outnumber those who think it would have a positive impact by more than a 2-to-1 margin (31% to 13%).

    Responses to this question are largely driven by one's support for Hillary Clinton for president. A majority of Republicans (most of whom say they definitely would not vote for Clinton) think keeping the Bush-Clinton family succession going is bad for the country, whereas a majority of Democrats (most of whom say they definitely will vote for Clinton or would consider doing so) say it would make little difference to the country. Democrats are twice as likely to say it would be good for the country as to say it would be bad. Most independents have a neutral stance on the issue, but are more likely to say it would be bad rather than good for the country.

    Bottom Line

    Because Clinton's detractors have fairly fundamental and varied reasons for not supporting her candidacy, it is unlikely she would be able to change these voters' minds between now and next November. But there is some evidence that she has been able to convert voters -- the percentage claiming they would definitely not vote for her now (44%) is seven points lower than in January 2006 (51%).

    Starting out the campaign with close to half of voters solidly against her candidacy does not seem like a good position to be in, but other candidates (Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson) have even greater numbers of detractors in the poll, and Clinton's numbers are not appreciably worse than those of Rudy Giuliani, Barack Obama, and John Edwards.

    The apparent theme of the 2008 election campaign has been Clinton's electability. She does have unusually high unfavorable ratings for a candidate this early in the campaign. However, that might just be due to the fact that she is universally known a year before the election, something most presidential candidates cannot claim. Clinton's unfavorable ratings and the percentage who say they definitely would not vote for her are not unusual compared to those of presidential candidates near the end of the campaign. So as long as her negatives don't continue to grow, she may be as well-positioned to win next November as Obama, Edwards, or the Republican candidate would be.

    Survey Methods

    These results are based on telephone interviews with a randomly selected national sample of 1,024 national adults, aged 18 and older, conducted Nov. 2-4, 2007. For results based on this sample, one can say with 95% confidence that the maximum error attributable to sampling and other random effects is ±3 percentage points.

    For results based on the sample of 932 registered voters, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points.

    In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.
  2. Aikbach

    Aikbach Well-Known Member

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    On the most superficial of levels, something regrettably pertinent in this YouTube debate age, she is not a very likable person which from a statesmanship perspective means something.
  3. DBoys

    DBoys New Member

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    She is a sellout bought and paid for.
  4. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    she's a lying self-serving beyatch. other than that we're tight.
  5. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    she's got those annoying dimples
  6. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    she's a lying self serving beyatch.
    and she's got those annoying dimples.

    other than that we're tight.
  7. Ben_n_austin

    Ben_n_austin Benched

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    I don't want to vote for her, but I'll vote for her over anything the right has to offer aside from Ron Paul.
  8. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Sad so many don't even know what she really is like as regards poliitcal orientation (Liberal). She has managed to snow a lot of fairly dim folk into thinking she is a moderate. The only way you could say she is a moderate is if you only look at the Democratic party as it is now. Its so far to the left in THAT context she is a moderate.
  9. ZeroClub

    ZeroClub just trying to get better

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    Advertising works!

    20 years of negative advertising would work against anybody .....

    Seriously, even Mother Teresa would have a difficult time maintaining favorable ratings had she been the target of a 20 year smear campaign.
  10. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    Smear campaign- all the fawning she has gotten over the years? Look at how many of the media are constantly kissing up to her!!!
  11. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    :hammer:
  12. jterrell

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    first thanks CP this is an awesome topic.

    I wish it had weighed more into the validity of each claim but alas then what would I do if it was already covered:)

    basic dislike of her or her husband (35%) --- I think this is largely to do with the smear campaign as mentioned above. Hillary is not incredibly likable. Cold hearted beyotch is probably apropos. Then again Bill is about as likable as they come and he was widely hated so I do think the intentional smear campaign which was not denied by neo-cons is probably at play as well.

    policy disagreements (39%) --- I am cool with this one if it is a legit policy disagreement. Hillary is not extreme in her policy though so its rather odd to see her as labeled socialist or whatever. Then again she like any politician will have policies we disagree with.

    and character concerns (34%) --- She is overly political and Dick Morris did invent the policy by poll strategy but Hillary does not use Morris and in fact he rails against her. Bill Clinton hated Morris and tried to physically assault him once. Hillary smoothed that over. (Morris said it was to keep the situation from hurting her politically but it was during Bill's governorship so alas she was seriously thinking ahead I guess) Other than that she protected her husband which I think most women would do. Any of these Presidential or even candidates wives say my husband sucks? Even if you get mad at someone you love you protect them from others. That's actually human nature, contrary to the Hillary Ice Princess portrayal I love that about her.
  13. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    If only that friggin Hilter would have been more conservative, huh Burm?

    :laugh2:
  14. jterrell

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    Who owns her?

    I mean I know who owns Bushie: The Saudis, Exxon, Enron, AIG and a select few others.

    So who owns Hill?
  15. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    As usual Hilary has one of her bought and paid for people here- we all know him as jterrel.
  16. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    :laugh2:

    He is a super hillary homer no doubt. However I don't think he has been a member of the board for years only because he is a bought and paid for Hillary supporter waiting to spring his evil trap when the time comes. :laugh2:

    I think we have had WAY more bush lackies on the board...quick let's all get our tin foil out. I don't think a hat will do this time, I think we may need to go full body for this one.
  17. jterrell

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    In a sense Burm is actually correct(every dog has his day); 8 years of progressive leadership, balanced budgets, expanding freedoms... yup I am all paid up.

    I heart Hillary.
  18. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Brotherhood of the Beard Staff Member

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    From one dark side to another...ughh.

    I got the CD this weekend. I had most of that music already, except for the FooFighters. That was worth it alone.:)

    Thanks!
  19. jterrell

    jterrell Penguinite

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    sweet man! feel free to share with those here who have eclectic tastes... then again not sure i sent anything eclectic, mostly all classic rock with yea the foo fighters worked in.
  20. 03EBZ06

    03EBZ06 Need2Speed

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