Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by kirkjrk, Dec 29, 2012.
Tyron would benefit from 20lbs. His size has caused some of his problems this year.
if we have a shot at a real pass rusher we have to grab him
Ezekiel Ansah or Jesse Williams.
I would try to trade out of the first and pick up an extra 2nd and a third.
With KC, the value would just about equal out. Might even be able to get a 7th also. Our picks would then be:
2. # 33
2. # 50
3. # 65
3. # 82
Yes, they said he was 280 at this time of year two years ago. He ended up at 307 at the combine.
And with those picks we could pick:
33 - Barrett Jones (G/C)
50 - Jonathan Jenkins (NT)
65 - Kyle Long (OT)
82 - Bacarri Rambo/ Robert Lester (S)
I want any solid olineman that will also stay healthy. I'm tired of all the injuries at all the positions. I know football is a brutal game and injuries are unpredictable, but it's getting above and beyond. If we can select any of these guys when we pick and not one stands above the rest, go for the player with the least amount of wear and tear and smallest amount of injuries. Does this guarantee they will never get injured? No. But we have tended to draft guys with high potential but dropped because of injury history. It's starting to really show up as well. I think we need to change our philosophy on this.
I have read, and I don't have the link, that Cooper was at 320 and lost weight to increase his mobility. I'd take all this with a grain of salt because he is clearly a big enough to put the weight on.
im down with thus
Out of those names I like Cooper for us. Garrett is trying to implement offensive lineman that are athletic and can hit moving targets, so Cooper is an ideal fit.
I also think Matt Elam will wind up being a 1st Round pick and prefer him over Vaccaro for our defense. Elam is slightly more versatile and plays with attitude. He can play downhill in the box or over the top as a single high safety, perfect SS for a multiple defense. I think he'll be a guy Rob gravitates towards throughout the draft process, he drafted a similar player who played with reckless abandon named T.J. Ward high in the 2nd Round his last year in Cleveland (although I think Elam has slightly better range and is a better overall athlete).
Luckily for us this draft is deep at the positions we're weak at... Safety and the trenches.
This got me thinking. Kyle Van Noy probably projects as a 43 OLB, right? Could he become a safety? He's a 2-3 round pick, I believe. Just a thought.
He is 6'2-1/2", 235. That's ideal size for 4-3 LB and big enough for a 3-4 ILB.
You would have to like him at Safety better than the actual Safeties that are available at that pick. That seems doubtful to happen in rounds 2 or 3.
Dion Jordan would be a nice pick for us I dont think he will be there though. Cooper or warmack would be nice picks. I'm beginning to lean towards Vaccaro though. He might be the guy for us.
Starting to lean towards Jake Matthews or Eric Fischer
I like Eric Fisher also. He and Tyrone could compete for LT and the results would be one at LT the other RT. I would really like to see Smith move back to RT. Hopefully that would gives us two bookend tackles for many years.
Yea, getting Fischer or Matthews in round 1 and if we're lucky Barrett Jones in round 2 would be a coup.
Cooper for me. I'm from NC and Cooper is a stud. Can play G or Center.