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What team is 6th in offense & 5th in defense in the NFL?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by MichaelWinicki, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. Sarge

    Sarge Red, White and Brew... Staff Member

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    Exactly. :bang2:
  2. Reality

    Reality Administrator Staff Member

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    Top 10 offense and defense, but no post season success is quite similar to what Norv Turner's Chargers teams have done in recent years.

    #reality
  3. VThokie7

    VThokie7 Well-Known Member

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    The Chargers have clearly been well rewarded for their patience and understanding of the process Garrett's supporters insist upon :lmao2:
  4. Dave_in-NC

    Dave_in-NC Well-Known Member

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    Empty stat.
  5. percyhoward

    percyhoward Research Tool

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    Red Zone TD Distribution, 2011 vs. 2012
    2011: 25 total TD
    Robinson 8
    everyone else 17

    2012 (projected): 18 total TD
    Ogletree 2
    everyone else 16

    As bad as we've been in the red zone this season, the falloff in red zone production can be traced to a change at one position. The weakness was partially covered up by Romo-to-Robinson last year, but now with Robinson gone, that weakness is completely exposed.

    In 64 red zone plays, our RB have scored 2 touchdowns.
  6. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Add critical drops, negative big plays overall, negative turnovers, and lack of critical third down stops, and loss of field position to the mix and you get 3-5 real easy. In fact I can make a case where we should be much worse than 3-5.

    Edit: add poor tackling esp at critical times to the mix as well.
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    You hear Garrett's pressers this week? In talking about the ATL game, he said he had 8 offensive possessions. Three resulted in points. 3 (I think it was 3) were drives that ended in drops. 1 was a third and 1 we failed to convert on.
  8. jobberone

    jobberone Save the Snow Leopard Staff Member

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    Been a little busy lately but that doesn't surprise me.
  9. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Is that Garrett weaseling out of taking any blame for what the offense has become?
  10. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    It highlights what the opportunity really is. Even in a game when we avoid turnovers completely (thank God), small execution lapses stopped literally half our drives. Maybe you make a case for the 3rd and one, but the drops?

    This is why the line between success and failure in the league is *so* think. Maybe it's overall coaching that explains the drops, but when you really look at what's stopping us from putting up points, it's things that are so small and seem to be addressable. I hate to dismantle the team when the things that are getting it beat really do seem to be fixable.

    I'm as tired as everyone else of the losing and of the ineptitude. I really am. That doesn't mean that the solution is to blow everything up, as satisfying as that may seem.
  11. Ren

    Ren Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you could blame luck if this wasn't a continuation of the same mistakes from last year and the year before

    6th in offense means very little if we're not scoring
  12. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The buck stops with percyhoward.
  13. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Cmon. It's just dang bad luck. These players are oozing with talent. Just check out the completely meaningless yards ranking.
  14. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    It all has to do with coaching. Basically, I can't see why we lose so many close games. Is it Garrett's coaching? I feel that it is because somehow we find ways to lose in the mist of victory. There is no ways that we should be 3-5 with top 5 in defense and top 10 in offense.
  15. NextGenBoys

    NextGenBoys Active Member

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    Been like that for awhile now, sans 2007.
  16. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    You sound bitter. :laugh2:
  17. burmafrd

    burmafrd Well-Known Member

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    just a lot more realistic about things then you clearly are

    have to laugh at anyone that thinks those stats you are so proud of mean anything

    compared to the simple fact that we are 3-5 and going nowhere
  18. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    Maybe I'll just turn into someone who posts one negative thought after another.








    D'oh!
  19. mmillman

    mmillman Active Member

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    which team is near the bottom in points scored?
    Which team is near the bottom in turnover ratio?
    Which team is near the top in penalties for the umpteenth year running?
    Which team doesn't have a football guy as GM?
  20. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    The Falcons?

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