What's the over/under on Dunbar fumbling?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Galian Beast, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    I was so excited about this guy coming into this season. I thought he could really add an element that our offense was missing, especially on crucial 3rd downs.

    Might be my most disappointing player this year, except for Austin, Ware, Spencer, and Ratliff already throwing their names in the hat.
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  2. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    It's a long season. Dunbar does add an element we haven't seen yet. He's a young player who needed to work on his ball control. When he's healthy, he'll start getting reps. It might be that wrinkle at midseason that keeps teams on their toes once they adapt to Beasley and Williams and Escobar.
  3. Carharris2

    Carharris2 Well-Known Member

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    If he does. He may be done. Only ahead of Tanner.
  4. Fredd

    Fredd Well-Known Member

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    am I missing something? Dunbar fumbled once in pre-season and once during the season, right? I agree that he hasn't played a lot, but I don't consider him a "fumbler" unless he continues to put the ball on the ground....give the kid a chance already
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  5. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Is he playing this week?
  6. DuceizBak

    DuceizBak Active Member

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    I hope he's playing
  7. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    Like Murray, his perceived fumbling problem is overstated.
  8. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    I think he would understand by now that protection of the football is his primary responsibility. I would be shocked if he coughs up the ball again this Sunday if he plays.
  9. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    They probably have some idea from practice about how he is holding the ball. It was obvious in some of his carries that he was holding it low and loose.
  10. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    What's the over and under on Larry Warford pancakes? I'm saying 10

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    No, you are not missing anything.

    It's the classic TWill 2 games into his rookie season scenario.
  12. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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    Okay... I did the math (including the 4 preseason games this season), Dunbar has touches 16 total touches -- counting rushes/ and receptions and has fumbled twice already. Small sample size I know but that is a fumble once every 8 times he touches the ball. Don't know about you guys but until he learns to secure the ball better I'd rather he not be on the field.
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  13. erod

    erod Well-Known Member

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    Apparently you are.

    If we're talking about 100 carries, then no, that's no big deal. But if you touch the ball 15 times and fumble twice, that is not good at all.

    Turnovers are the biggest plays in games. I like Dunbar a lot, but if he fumbles again for no good reason, cut him.
  14. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Come on. I'm thrilled we got Escobar over him or Eddie Lacy!:eek:

    Ok, I'll shut it.
  15. Idgit

    Idgit If you food, you gonna be ate. Staff Member

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    I don't know how significant the issue really is, but this is apparently something Garrett addressed after Dunbar's fumble in KC (?) in the walk-off after his press conference. The walk-off is the one time the coach will share mostly off-the-record tidbits. JG said that that play was supposed to be his safe play, so it was a bigger deal for him that Dunbar didn't demonstrate the ball control he'd been drilled with. The comment was peppered with the usual Garrettisms...he's a young player, he's working hard, he just needs to learn the importance of keeping the football...but it was pretty clear that this was an issue of the player not doing what he was taught to do and needing more work on it in practice.

    It's been several weeks since then, so it's reasonable to expect he's improved in this area. But I do think the offensive coaches, at least, recognized this was a case of a young guy needing to be drilled on the basics of four-pointing the ball in traffic and not just an isolated incident of a couple of fumbles that could happen to anybody.

    I like Dunbar quite a bit, too, and think he's going to end up making his share of big plays for us this season. Hopefully, that'll start this week. But I wouldn't play a guy who can't show me in practice that he'll take care of the football, either. I'd rather have slow-as-death Joseph Randle out there protecting the ball than Daren-Sproles-Jr-with-Fumblities, if those were my only two choices.
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  16. ChldsPlay

    ChldsPlay Well-Known Member

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    Might want to work on the math. It's not much better, but he's had 22 touches counting the preseason. Still, it's too small of a sample size to say it's anything more than a couple bad plays.
  17. fifaguy

    fifaguy Well-Known Member

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    oh cool
  18. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    I'm kind of confused with that as well. I thought Dunbar has been hurt the majority of the season lol. He hasn't gotten enough reps to be "disappointed" in his performance lol.
  19. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Who does he think he is playing for - the NY Giants?
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  20. Vintage

    Vintage The Cult of Jib

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    Fumble prone. 2 fumbles out of 22 touches = fumble prone.

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