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Where Would We Have Been W/O Jerry The Past 25 Yrs?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WPBCowboysFan, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. JustAGuy

    JustAGuy Benched

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    We might still have had some SB wins anyway because we had Irvin, and there was no question Landry & Co. were going to take Aikman. Not only that, but the plan was to also bring in Jimmy Johnson as defensive coordinator. Who knows what happens from there.
  2. JustAGuy

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    Doc: That's Latin, darlin', evidently Mr. Ringo here's an educated man. Now I really hate him.
  3. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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  5. DallasEast

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    The year is 1984...
    I have traveled back in time to terminate you, Jerry Jones.
    Why? I will answer your question in a thick robotic Austrian accent.
    In 1989, you will purchase the Dallas Cowboys and hire Jimmy Johnson as your head coach.
    Within seven years, your team will win three Super Bowls.
    However, things soon fall apart.
    You and Johnson will part ways like a pair of bickering brats.
    Your drafts will be laughed at.
    Your coaching hires will be erratic.
    You will build a stadium some will loathe.
    Your team's inability to win more Super Bowls will cause fans to despise you.
    One of those fans' name is John Connor.
    Connor will eventually stop bashing you on internet forums and train to become a mercenary.
    He intends to terminate you himself, but something happens first.
    In 2016, Skynet becomes self-aware and goes online. Within days, Skynet wipes out most of humanity.
    But survivors will form a resistance. John Connor will head that resistance.
    Skynet will change Connor's fate by eliminating the one human responsible for transforming him into a pain in Skynet's butt.
    That human is you, Jerry Jones.
    Die.​
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2014
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  6. Vanilla2

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    Lol

    Are you always this dramatic?
  7. REDVOLUTION

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    You have knack for this stuff. Funny! Lol

    I would send him back to after Super Bowl 28. Dump his arse into 1999.

    We have 4-5 Super Bowls. Lol
  8. Vanilla2

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    Couldn't of said it better myself.
  9. Rockytop6

    Rockytop6 Well-Known Member

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    The thought of it gives me a fuzzy feeling.
  10. Wolfpack

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    Really? I ve never heard that before. You are saying Landry was going to bring in Jimmy to be DC?
  11. bkight13

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    I think that shows how over-rated Johnson was. He had the benefit of a ton of top picks, plus the players he inherited like Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, Jim Jeffcoat, Ken Norton, Billy Bates, Mark Tuinei, Kevin Gogan and Herschel Walker. It was always about the players, not the coaches. What did Johnson accomplish after Dallas? After doing very little in Miami, he took his 2 rings and ran to TV and never went back.
  12. BoysFan4ever

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    Because he was tired of all the BS he had to deal with & he didn't like coaching anymore. He wanted to spend some time with his new wife & sons who he virtually ignored while coaching.

    Who can blame him? He had millions in the bank & gets millions for a part time tv job. His other hours are spent doing what he loves most. Being out in his boat relaxing & fishing.

    Jimmy has a great life post coaching. And he was a great coach. Over rated? Heck no.
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  13. bkight13

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    Nah, he was exposed as a product of superior talent. I agree that TV is a lot easier, but I don't buy the family stuff at all. That is just cover for taking his toys and running home. You can't lose what you don't put in.
  14. BoysFan4ever

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    Well then you are calling both Jimmy & both his sons liars because they all say he was a lousy dad when he was coaching & they now have a great relationship because he is not. If he wanted a job coaching tomorrow he could get one. Even at his age. So think what you want.
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  15. PA Cowboy Fan

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    All I have to do is look at the last 17 years to know Jerry had little to do with those winning teams other than hiring Jimmy and signing the checks. If he was even half responsible, the Cowboys would have had more success.
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  16. daveferr33

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    Moreover, look at how those teams were constructed; two of the very best lines (both sides) in the history of the NFL.

    I was watching the 92 NFC championship game the other day and was just amazed at the rotation they had on the D-Line.

    If Jerry had anything to do with building the team back then (other than signing checks and slapping backs), then that blue print would be all over the post 90s teams. Sadly, that blue print is nowhere to be found.
  17. Hardline

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    This is a hypothetical question. I don't do hypothetical questions.

    No one has a crystal ball to look back in the past to know what would it be like if Jerry never bought the team.
  18. yimyammer

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    I was perusing the online archives of the Dallas Public Library this morning and found this article that is funny (or sad) to reflect on

    (I'm posting the entire article because it can't be linked since its part of the digital archive I accessed via the Dallas Public Library):

    IN FUTURE HUDDLE, COWBOYS' OWNER WILL CALL ALL PLAYS
    The Dallas Morning News - Sunday, February 26, 1989
    Readability: 6-7 grade level (Lexile: 960L)
    Author: Bernie Miklasz: The Dallas Morning News (DAL)

    For 29 years, the Cowboys have been a model of stability, with a consistent and well-defined power structure.

    Their two previous owners, Clint Murchison and H.R. "Bum' Bright, were content to remain out of view, out of earshot, silent money men who permitted Cowboys president Tex Schramm, coach Tom Landry and personnel director Gil Brandt to run the three critical phases of the operation.

    Enter Jerry Jones, who Saturday became the unofficial new owner of the Cowboys. "This is going to be my life," he said. Jones gave every indication that he will be a much different kind of Cowboys owner: agressive, opinionated, involved and in the limelight.

    "He's going to be the most enthusiastic owner the Cowboys have ever had,' said Bright, after announcing his deal with Jones.

    Jones' first declaration: The Cowboys, who were 3-13 last season, will be winners in 1989.

    "There is no substitute for winning,' Jones said, with considerable gusto. "We must win, we will win. Winning is the name of the game . . . We're going to win this year.'

    Said Cowboys offensive line coach Jim Erkenbeck, after listening to Jones' initial news conference on the radio: "The guy has a lot of energy. He's the kind of guy a coach would want on a kickoff coverage team.'

    Jones, 46, and a native of Little Rock, Ark., will take control of the team after documents are signed and the sale is approved by the NFL.

    And Jones will, indeed, take control. For the first time in team history, the Cowboys seemed destined to be operated with a firm hand by the man who owns them. In the past, Murchison and Bright never even had an office at the Cowboys' headquarters. Jones plans to move into one immediately.

    "My entire office and my entire business will be at this complex,' Jones said. "I intend to know and have an understanding of the complete situation. An understanding of the player situation, the jocks and socks, the TV (contract).

    "There's no way in the world that with my enthusiasm and love for what I'm getting ready to do, and the kind of price I'm paying, that I can look in the mirror if I don't plan to be a part of everything. I want to understand that everyone associated with it is giving it everything that they can do.'

    Jones made his management style perfectly clear with his bold, initial move: firing Landry, who certainly is destined for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    Jones expressed regret at having to fire Landry to hire University of Miami coach Jimmy Johnson -- his college roomate at Arkansas -- but isn't concerned with a public backlash.

    "I've always been open and honest, and I've always said if I'm going into pro football, Jimmy is coming with me,' Jones said.

    For 29 years, Schramm has called every shot in the Cowboys' front office. He has been the ultimate front man, eternally hawking the Cowboys and NFL football.

    Jones indicated that Schramm, the front man, may have to step back.

    "He's standing a little behind tonight,' Jones said in an insensitive remark, pointing over his shoulder to Schramm. For starters, Jones said that from now on, he -- and not Schramm -- will be casting the Cowboys' votes at NFL meetings.

    For the past 29 years, Landry has made all the football decisions: cuts, trades, playing time. Jones indicated that those days are over, too. He said he will work closely with Johnson, his friend of 25 years. Jones was a guard on the 1964 Arkansas national championship team that featured Johnson as a defensive tackle.

    Jones, unlike Murchison or Bright, has played football extensively and is confident in his knowledge of the game. Jones, who expressed a strong, favorable opinion on UCLA quarterback Troy Aikman on Saturday, made it clear that he also will be having a voice in Dallas' draft-day decisions.

    "I'll be a part of every decision,' Jones said. "I won't leave anything to the football people. Certainly, Jimmy Johnson is the football expert on this team. Tex has an enormous background (in the front office). I'm not saying I'm coming into being the football coach. But we're a team. I want to understand everything about the Cowboys.'

    On his first night on the job, Jones made the Cowboys understand one thing: he's the boss.
    Caption: PHOTO; Jerry Jones' family listens at the first news conference held by the Cowboys' new owner. From left to right: Jones' wife, Gene; daughter Charlotte; and sons Jerry Jr. and Steven (DMN; Richard Michael Pruitt) LOCATION: Jones, Jerral W. "Jerry"
  19. yimyammer

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    Actually, the plan was to bring in Jimmy as head coach but Schram couldn't bring himself to fire Landry and Landry wouldn't retire after saying he was going to.

    IIRC, one of the negotiating issues for the sell of the team to Jones was he was going to fire Landry. Bum Bright didn't like him for some reason
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  20. JustAGuy

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    Exposed? Jimmy Johnson won the national championship in Miami before he came to Dallas. His leftovers at Miami won two more college national championships after he left, and almost a third (but lost to Alabama in the title game). Likewise his leftovers won a third Super Bowl, and nearly had a fourth.

    I don't understand why so many people just dismiss Johnson's pre-Cowboys accomplishments, and just point to the Dolphins as if that is proof the guy was a fraud. Jimmy Johnson is a top 10 coach in my lifetime. He is peer to the likes of Shula, Landry, Knoll, Walsh, and Belichick. His only flaw is the burnout factor. Lest we all forget that he was the first coach in football history to win both a college national championship and a Super Bowl. The second guy to accomplish that feat was Switzer who got his Super Bowl with Jimmy's leftovers.
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