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Where Would We Have Been W/O Jerry The Past 25 Yrs?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by WPBCowboysFan, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. peplaw06

    peplaw06 That Guy

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    If that had been the case, then at least Jerry would have the lion's share of credit for two maybe three super bowl wins. He would have proven that they could rebuild and win it all. As it is, the Cowboys had a coach in the 90s who arguably controlled personnel decisions, and since the players he put in place have left, the team has had no ultimate success. So it's understandable how some Jerry haters would exist under the current scenario no?

    Playoff wins matter because at least fans can fool themselves into thinking this team is a contender and is building toward something. Right now, that's just about impossible for anyone who is objective.
  2. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    then it's a hell of choice.
  3. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    Bum Bright didn't like Tom because he wouldn't give him the time of day & he felt disrespected. You know how those rich old coots are. BOW BEFORE THE KING.
    Coach Landry was just a quiet introspective man. Tom & Jerry didn't like each other either. Can you imagine 2 men more different so that's no great shock.
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  4. MikeT22

    MikeT22 Active Member

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    Thank heaven Jimmy was the coach and in charge of personnel those first 5 years.
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  5. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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  6. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Yeah, that was pretty pointless. Hey, what if the Cowboys would have won while Jerry was an active GM? Would the haters go away?

    Yes. You got us there. I am sickly burned.
  7. theranchsucks

    theranchsucks Well-Known Member

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    Even the morons who support Jerry still know it was all Jimmy.........Actually if you think about it Jimmy Johnson may have been the greatest head coach of all-time. I mean think about it, did Vince Lombardi ever have to overcome Jerry Jones.
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  8. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    To answer the OP's question. Without Jerry there is no Jimmy. Together they built the NFL's last true dynasty. Working together they were unstoppable and in return the league slaps FA and the cap on us or we'd have more Lombardis.

    Their two ego's were too big to go side by side and in the end the fans lost out. I hate the fact that they both built and tore down what was a franchise for others to envy.

    Today we are still waiting for the glory days to return. The problem is Jerry doesn't have those resources he did when he first took charge. Our franchise is no longer innovative as it once was. The last few drafts have given some hope and we need a few more to be on track to sustain a long tenure of success.

    Without Jerry, we have no Jimmy and without Jimmy, we have 2 Lombardis.
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  9. WPBCowboysFan

    WPBCowboysFan Well-Known Member

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    Maybe still the saddest day in Cowboys history - when Jerrah bought the team.
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  10. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Well-Known Member

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    Funny that I think you are right. What if someone buys the team but let Jimmy do his thing? Someone who isn't petty and insecure?
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  11. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    did other fans have to overcome such rantings of hate?

    it was not all any one thing. if it was ONE person then jimmy would have won in miami.

    it's a collective effort *morons* try to single out to a modular solution.
  12. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    You are validating my point that it's the players and not the coach. Miami won before Johnson and they kept winning after Johnson. They had they best athletes in the country. And Dallas went to the NFC Championship and won the Super Bowl with Switzer(who was also a very, very successful college coach) but he gets zero credit because of the Triplets. I doesn't make any sense. I personally think Johnson is very over-rated and he never put it on the line after the Dolphins. You can hero worship all you want, I choose not to. To put Johnson in the group you quoted is laughable to me.
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  13. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    johnson, after leaving dallas, said shula should win it all. it's as if johnson wanted to retire in miami.

    so he set the seeds, and people sucked it up. made him coach, and he couldn't take a team he said should win it, to the goal.

    revisionist history sucks.
  14. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    you can't hold a singular view then excuse singular failure.

    unless you have an agenda.
  15. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    So how does any of that make Johnson a legend? He failed to reach the lofty goals he set and then walked away forever. If he stayed in Dallas and won four or five Super Bowls, then yes he would be a HOFer.
  16. SilverStarCowboy

    SilverStarCowboy The Actualist

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    There was a very strong Football Culture in Dallas with Tom Landry and Jimmy Johnson which has deteriorated and soured to one of the worst or weak almost non-existent Football Cultures ever especially outside the AFL.
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  17. theSHOW

    theSHOW Benched

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    What if?..........Jimmy stayed

    And Jerry went to Miami?
  18. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy has forgotten more about football than Jerry will ever know.
  19. iceberg

    iceberg detoxed Zone Supporter

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    oh, i was agreeing with you and arguing against "it was all jimmy".
  20. theSHOW

    theSHOW Benched

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    and where do u rank amongst both of them?


    Jerry: captain of Arkansas National Champion Football

    Jimmy: on same line, not a team captain

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