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Which Dallas draft pick has the highest chance of being a bust?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Verdict, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    The Cowboys have had the idea for a 2 TE offense since 08 when they drafted Bennett. Witten was 26 years old at the time. They're not looking for Escobar to be the #1 target they want him to compliment Witten. How many times do I have to repeat that? They're not expecting a 1000 yard season out of Escobar they want him to be a productive part of the passing game especially in the redzone.

    An 8-8 team who's HC is on the hot seat doesn't take a TE with a #2 pick if they're not expecting immediate production from them. No one is saying the Cowboys are looking at just this season with Escobar don't know why you keep repeating that. :rolleyes: They're looking at the future with all their picks but they need their high picks to start producing this season or Garrett may not have a future in Dallas.
  2. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    Why can't y'all that complain and discuss the negative just try and be positive. You will really enjoy it more. There might be some disappointment when your hopes don't materialize, but when you expect the bad all the time, how can you ever enjoy anything? It has nothing to do with being a "realist", that is only an excuse y'all use to rationalize your negativity. You don't ever look for the good things, only the things that will justify your expectations of failure.

    If an individual doesn't live up to your unreasonable expectations, you dump on him and anyone that tries to remain positive. That is not a good way to go through life! If you expect failure, expect to fail.

    Me, I will go into each season believing that this is our year. If it doesn't work out, there is always next year. These players are on my team, so I will pull for them until they convince me they don't care about the team and put themselves first. Until then, I am a Cowboys fan and they are Cowboys.

    PS, you didn't think those were negative comments I quoted? You didn't think those folks were declaring Escobar a bust already?
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  3. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    And, the thing is that posters are saying that if Escobar does not produce his first year as a 2nd rounder then he is a failure and Garrett will lose his job! All that even BEFORE a friggen game is played!

    Can you believe that? It's just so damn stupid that I have no words for it.
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  4. dreghorn2

    dreghorn2 Well-Known Member

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    Umm... we are supposed to be going heavy into the '12' package as our base offense, so much so, that we don't have a fullback on our roster.

    Theoretically this is going to require a lot of snaps from our TE group, Witten, Hanna (a 6th rounder with 8 catches last year), Rosario ( a 7 year vet with 99 career catches), and our 2013 second round selection Escobar.

    You can be assured that the Cowboys were not spending this selection on a long term developing, get him in the weight room for a year, he's just a rookie don't expect much kind of guy. Ridiculous, lazy, i don't think so.
  5. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    I actually like this rebuttal from you because I really think Escobar is going to going to produce for the Cowboys this year.
  6. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    Provide a post from someone who said that. LOL
  7. dreghorn2

    dreghorn2 Well-Known Member

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    I hope he does as well, trust me, but the thread is just speculation on who 'might' be a bust for this draft class.

    He kind of fits the bill because there will be pressure on Escobar to play a lot of snaps and be a presence when we are down deep, if he doesn't.. then 'maybe' he was a poor pick because we need help now.

    Frederick, he's going to play, Williams, looks like Miles replacement down the line, could be a factor this season, less pressure.

    Obviously no long term conclusions can be made regarding Escobars' future right now.
  8. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    I don't think about Escobar either way this season. Hanna showed he could catch in those last 4 games last year and I think it's a good sign for him that they started using when they did.
  9. fortdick

    fortdick Well-Known Member

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    This! Hanna will be the second TE, Escobar will play H Back and slot. Escobar will actually be a pseudo WR this year. Hanna is going to be what they hoped Bennett would be.
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  10. 5Stars

    5Stars Here comes the Sun...

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    This is very true. But, I don't think us fans have seen what he is capable of doing in preseason.

    So, I am done with this thread because "you got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, no when to walk away, know when to run...

    :D
  11. OhSnap

    OhSnap Well-Known Member

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    The guy caught everything they asked him to. It wasn't but 8 catches out of 11 throws but most of them being in the last 4 games is important because those were games fighting for a playoff spot and it makes me think he learned to adjust his routes in his first year. Hanna could be coming in under the radar this year?
  12. tupperware

    tupperware A Plastic Container

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    Who cares if people want to be critics. You still see that they're fans of the same team you support as well, don't you?

    This place would be absolutely silly if everyone did nothing but drown every player with praise and never had a critical thing to say. It's a forum, which is a platform for discussion. Your discussions are only ever going to go so far without disagreements and debate. So don't question why people criticize, criticize and debate their points.
  13. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    You're posting in a thread asking about which player might bust.

    If you can't handle the possibility, avoid the thread and keep up with the ostrich routine.
  14. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    Nobody is declaring him a bust.

    What they are saying is that if this draft has one - and almost all do - the most likely candidate to most people is that it will be Escobar.

    Nobody is hoping for it, nobody is counting on it, nobody wold be happy if it happened.
  15. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    That's not what anyone is doing.

    You obviously don't understand the topic.

    The question is if you had to pick a player who might bust, which one would it be?

    Believe it or not, it could happen.
  16. iceman117

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    He'll have to do better than that by his 3rd year.... Witten is getting up there in age, if Escobar doesn't have the second most receiving Tds on this team by year 3 he is a bust in my eyes.... Second round pick has to produce especially when it wasn't a big position of need on the team so in a way he has to be kind of be a special player.
  17. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    I agree with you, he is Austin's replacement in 1 or 2 years
  18. iceman117

    iceman117 Active Member

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    Ill just throw another name out there to play devils advocate and sway away from Escobar who is obviously the prime candidate. JJ Wilcox has a boat load of potential and could be a very good player.... He also could be a bust because I think a third round pick should be a guy who produces by year 2 or 3 so we will see.
  19. dogberry

    dogberry Well-Known Member

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    Frederick - starter
    Escobar - starter in the 12.
    Williams - starter in the 11
    Wilcox - future starter
    Webb - depth at cb (I am someone who groused all through the 70s about not having a good 2nd cb, I want lots of cbs)
    Randall - depth plus future starter if we don't have enough to pay Murray
    Holloman - future starter
  20. DenCWBY

    DenCWBY Active Member

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    So far Fredrick is the only draft pick that has shown solid progress to becoming a started now and for many years to come. It's way too early to speculate but Escobar just has that "new kid in the classroom look" and he needs to start developing a nasty edge to him to show he's capable. Again way too early to speculate on any one of them.

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