Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Cowboy Brian, Sep 26, 2012.
Couldn't have said it any better
Well, look at the time.
Thanks for the convo.
Lee makes just as many non wow plays as ware...if not more
The difference are the wow plays. Ware wins that pretty decisively.
Still Ware. That being said, Lee is who Bobby Carpenter should have been.
I agree with Risen Star on this one; one reason so many fans may consider Lee to be better than Ware is because human nature wants novelty and something new for a change. The fact that Lee is a rising star shouldn't detract from Ware at all, but we have come to expect double-digit sack seasons from Ware as the norm.
I won't allow myself to take him for granted. What he's doing is historic. You're talking about one of the all time great defensive players.
Not only is he the best defensive player on this team, he may be the best player in team history, offense or defense.
Demarcus Lee is just so much better than Sean Ware, in my humblest opinion.
By pure skill at a particular position, perhaps, but in terms of value in contribution I don't think we could ever place Ware above the likes of Emmitt Smith, for instance.
Yeah, he'll probably never have the accomplishments team wise to match up with guys like Emmitt, Troy and Staubach but a case can be made he was a better player than they were. He can't help he was born too late and had to play on Jerry's teams.
To me it comes down to Emmitt or Ware. You can claim those two were the best to ever play their position. I don't think you can say that about any other Cowboy.
JMO. It's a debate that will never be won or lost. I'm just glad he's done this in a Cowboys uniform.
I think you can say that for Larry Allen aswell.
Ware, but I don't think this thread is as ridiculous as it would've been, say a year ago.
I forgot about him.
Ware. Not discrediting Lee but he is no where near on his level. Ware is a future HOFer and one of the best at his position of all time. Ware's play hasn't declined either.
Can't say the same about Lee.
Always happens with linemen, :laugh2: poor guys.
You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus.
Anthony Spencer has been outstanding in the early going as well, and this is coming from someone who has been vocally underwhelmed by his play in the past.
Guy deserves some praise.
As far as overall defensive rankings, I'd go:
We probably have the best group of LBs in the NFL right now.
On the same page. I want to resign Spencer.
I'd like to see him keep this level of play for 16 games before making a final decision, but you have to be encouraged so far.
Lee has a long road ahead to prove he's in the same zip code as D. Ware. He's off to a good start though.
Its Ware........for now. But I see them as equals in most ways " their positions are entirely different meaning they impact the defense in different ways" although Ware is an all time great. But.........think of it this way.......How many fantastic 3-4 defenses or even 4-3 defenses have their been that DIDNT have a GREAT inside linebacker? Not many. Not many at all. But......I can think of tons of 3-4 defenses that havent done squat even though they had one dominant outside linebacker.
A defense can move from VERY good to GREAT by having a talented inside backer to run the show and make the calls, doesnt matter if its a 34 or 43 either. We have ours.
...of looking at this.
If either player hit free agency right now who would be picked up faster and for what salary.
Now I know there is a pay scale difference for each position, but my question would be who would be paid at the top of the pay scale at his position if he were to hit the market?