Why are people complaining about the 2 point??

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by crazytown41, Nov 5, 2006.

  1. crazytown41

    crazytown41 Well-Known Member

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    Do you guys really think the Redskins would be punting the ball at our 39 down by 1 point with 5 minutes left??

    the Redskins would not have been playing so conservative if they were down 1.

    I dont know how guys can blame a point that happened in the 1st Q and not take into effect the skins playcalling would have been completely different.

    The failed conversion didn't cost us the game "PERIOD"
  2. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    exactly, if TO catches that ball and takes it to the house, that 1 point doesn't matter

    REDVOLUTION Return to Dominance

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    on the road, early in the game... go for sure point... kick the extra point.... momentum swings, etc.....
  4. Clove

    Clove Shrinkage

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    I'm complaining because you force them to consistanly play catch up, and you send a psychological message when you're always 1 up on the opposition.
  5. Bob Sacamano

    Bob Sacamano Benched

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    I don't think the skins were carrying that momentum from that play all the way throughout the game
  6. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it was a legit game loser for us. But in theory I don't like the call because I think you wait on 2 point conversions until the 2nd half when you know or at least have a better idea of what has to be done.

    That being said, being down by 1 with 5 minutes to go would still mean that Washington can punt away rather comfortably.

  7. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Maybe it did. Maybe it didn't. We don't know for sure.

    The Redskins might have gone for it on fourth down or gone for two themselves or whatever, but that's putting the onus on them. They're the ones who have to take the risk. And they're the ones who have to convert. When you go for two early in the game -- whether you make it or not -- you are taking an unnecessary risk. We didn't HAVE to take that risk, and it ended up being a costly one.
  8. jterrell

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    I think it was a mistake for Troy and Buck to keep brining it up. It simply was a defense of Troys opinion earlier that the Skins should have went for 4th down but we should have kicked a PAT instead of attempt the 2.

    It was all even in the end. They gave up a Fg and got a safety which was one point. We lost one point for failing the 2.

    All evened out.

    What we did to lose was interfere on a deep pass play AGAIN on a weak trick play, and get hit with a funky 15 yard penalty on a clear yard facemask.
  9. bbgun

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    People make the mistake of thinking that the game would have unfolded in exactly the same way had we kicked the extra point. It wouldnt have.
  10. ddh33

    ddh33 Active Member

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    As a personal opinion, I wouldn't have gone for two right then. I don't like to go for it that early. It kind of feels like that move always ends up backfiring some way.

    At the same time, I completely understand why Bill did decide to go for it. It's not the reason why the team lost the game.

    There are literally dozens of little things that happen through the course of a game that determine who wins and loses. That play wasn't one of the big ones. It was just part of it, and since some fans want somebody-anybody-to blame, they jump on that call.
  11. Ratmatt

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    Rather you want to blame the going for 2 points or not,it was simply a huge mistake.Parcells will get real defensive this week when asked about it.He will bring up the chart says go for 2.All I can tell you is that the idiot needs to keep the chart in his pocket,until late 3rd quarter,or sometime in the 4th.
  12. percyhoward

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    Do you really think being tied is better than leading?

    Give me any situation that puts the opponent into a position where he can't be conservative, and has no choice but to take risks. Giving up that extra point put the Skins into a situation where they could afford to be conservative.

    Going for two there will go down one of the strangest calls in the history of this team.
  13. gbrittain

    gbrittain Well-Known Member

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    There are a lot of what if's, but the bottom line is it was a poor decision at best.

    You start excusing bad decisions and bad play and that is the perfect recipe for disaster.

    There is plenty of blame to go around to include Parcells for that bonehead decision.
  14. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star

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    Still a stupid decision regardless.
  15. CaptainAmerica

    CaptainAmerica Active Member

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    All I know is that most of us and all the analysts were saying it was a bad decision in the 2nd quarter when it happened and we end up tied having to try and kick a FG to win the game in the last :33.

    Analyze it and defend Parcells all you want, but it played out exactly the way everyone feared it would when Parcells made the stupid decision.
  16. mmohican29

    mmohican29 Well-Known Member

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    the game is different and unfolds differently with the extra point. Personally I think I kick the extra point, but whatever. Not the reason we lost. Everyone forgets we had the game winning play in our hands and did not execute for whatever reason.
  17. ConcordCowboy

    ConcordCowboy Mr. Buckeye

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    No question. If we kick that Extra point...Everything that happened after the Redskins missed that 49 yarder...NEVER happens...the games over.
  18. DJ PACE

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    The biggest mistake in the game was going for 2 points on the first touchdown. If we had kicked the extra point we would have been up 1 point after the missed fg by the skins. Then we would have just run the clock out. No need for the fg. We still obviously should have won, but why go for 2 so early in the game. I just dont understand some of the calls in the Parcells era.
  19. ratpower

    ratpower New Member

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    It was not a good call but not the biggest mistake of the game. TO dropping the ball is bigger to me...
  20. alancdc

    alancdc Active Member

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    How about us going hurry up on 3rd and 1 from their 40 when we were donminating their line of scrimmage anyway. No reason to go hurry up there. MBIII owned their line, and would have picked up a yard. We get that, and....I know we were barely successful one time, but I didn't agree with it then either.

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