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Why is everyone so down on Jason Garrett?

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by dcowboysfan76, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    Here me out before you guys go ape doo doo. The coach that we all wished we had started off his first stint of being a head coach in Cleveland at 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11 (36-44) before he churned out the juggernaut called the Patriots. Jason Garret is at .518 (29-27) . Could we theoretically say that most of you would be calling for Belichick's head if he were our coach back then? Prior to knowing that he would end up being one of the greatest H.C.'s of all time? In my opinion I think this is what Jerry is hoping for. He wants that "I told you so moment." Now, we can all agree that Garrett is an intellectual, but at the same time most of you are wondering when will he stop studying the "Coaching For Dummies" book?
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  2. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Did Belicheck have the brain freezes with clock management that Garrett has had ?
    I did not follow his coaching career at Cleveland, so I have no idea.
  3. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Zone Supporter

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    I'm not on high on Garrett, but he's coming back next year regardless. We might as well start talking about where he can improve rather than dwelling on his past mistakes.
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  4. BoysFan4ever

    BoysFan4ever Well-Known Member

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    I'd kind of like the head coach of the Cowboys to be someone that doesn't need on the job training.
  5. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    Head Coaches without previous head coaching experience will have on the job training, just like a newly drafted QB who's thrown in as the first day starter. You can only simulate so much in practice.
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  6. kevinhickey

    kevinhickey Member

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    Belicheat had the cameras on the sidelines to assist in his coaching once he got to New England. Now everyone thinks he is a great coach.
  7. blindzebra

    blindzebra Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about Cleveland but he has had plenty in NE.
  8. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    Oh boy, youre about to get slammed for all the JG haters.

    Especially when you point out his record to this point then compare it to Landry and Jimmy Johnsons record over the same time span.
    They will say that those guys got garbage to work with and JG was given a team of Greek Gods.

    Bill Walsh
    1979-1982
    24-33

    Tom Landry
    1960-1964
    18-46

    Bill Belichick
    1991-1993
    20-28

    Jimmy Johnson
    1989-1991
    19-29

    Jason Garrett
    2010-2013
    29-27

    Parcells had 4 years in Dallas
    34-30

    I want to win as much as any other fan but JG while not winning has fixed problems and the players clearly respect him and play hard for him yet hes avoided atleast losing seasons while keeping the team in contention until the very end.
    That being said, if he doesnt produce next year it may be time to move on.
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  9. Don Corleone

    Don Corleone Well-Known Member

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    This franchise and fan base deserves better. We are not the Cleveland Browns of the mid 90s.
  10. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    We arent the Dallas Cowboys of the mid-90s either.
  11. Corso

    Corso Well-Known Member

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    Good post.
    Something to think about...
  12. Teren_Kanan

    Teren_Kanan Well-Known Member

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    Garrets record has nothing to do with my dislike for him.

    The guy does not know how to manage a game, or scheme and offense. I can't remember an HC I've seen mismanage games as often and consistently as Garrett. I won't get into his offense scheme which has been garbage ever since he became OC.
  13. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    My problem with Garrett is that when people ask me what hes good at I don't have an answer.
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  14. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I think the fact that he is the Head Coach and leader of the offensive system causes more angst among the fans than if he had never been involved in the offense. Wade didn't get as much flack despite being a complete goof as a Head Coach that had no control over the players/locker-room. Defensive coaches don't draw as much attention as offensive play-callers because many fans really don't know much about defensive schemes. Every fan can see when a play is a pass or run, but most don't know when when they play zone or man.

    Even as bad as the defense was this season, there seemed to be as much whining and moaning about the offense as there was about the defense.
  15. NJ22

    NJ22 Well-Known Member

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    This is not Cleveland it is Dallas. Did Belicheck take over a team coming off an 11-5 with a playoff win team? I agree Jerry wants to be right and unfortunately he is pissing away the prime of core players in the meantime. This is not the 80s or 90s a real coach turns a team around in 1,2 or 3 years we declined from the year before he took over and have been on the mediocre train since.
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  16. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    bingo
  17. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Stackin and Processin, Well

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    Why isn't everyone down on Jason Garrett?

    After looking at the film. He routinely prevents the Cowboys from stacking wins by a weak process that isn't executed, well.
  18. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    I think we're just tired of watching other teams go to the playoffs every year. And the teams we're seeing in the playoffs every year are either teams with experienced coaches (like Bellichick, Tomlin) or young hotshot college coaches (like Carroll, Harbaugh (Jim)). We're just not getting it done and it has to be someone's fault. Some of us blame Jerry, some Garrett, some Romo, some all of the above. Somebody has to take the blame for consistent mediocrity.
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  19. Nomad

    Nomad Active Member

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    It's like Jerry finally got the idea that you stick it out with the same head coach and groom from within the organization, but he's done it to the completely wrong person.

    I don't like Jason Garrett because as the head coach he should know more than the players and fans but he honestly doesn't, and he makes horrible playcalling and game management decisions. It's ridiculous.
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  20. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again. JG didnt take over a playoff team. He took over a team in complete kaoss and will a losing record.
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