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Why is everyone so down on Jason Garrett?

Discussion in 'Jerry/Garrett/Rant Zone' started by dcowboysfan76, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. jobberone

    jobberone Genetically engineered moderating Orangutan Staff Member

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    and he was also pilot of the 5-3 turnaround that was close to being 7-1.

    You say two mot toe and I say two may toe.
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  2. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    The Cleveland Browns have not always sucked lol. They have:

    Championships
    League championships (8)

    Conference championships (11)

    • NFL American: 1950, 1951, 1952
    • NFL Eastern: 1953, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1964, 1965, 1968, 1969
    Division championships (13)

    • AAFC Western: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
    • NFL Century: 1967, 1968, 1969
    • AFC Central: 1971, 1980, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989
    Playoff appearances (28)
    • AAFC: 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949
    • NFL: 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1994, 2002
  3. TheCount

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    Bellichick was coaching in the NFL for 16 YEARS before he even got the head coaching job for the Browns. Garrett was coaching for less than 5 before he became the head coach here.
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  4. Nomad

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    Think about it this way. There are only 32 nfl head coaching positions and only 1 with the dallas cowboys. By supply and demand for such a very limited job position Jason Garrott should be a football genius. Is he? Is he one of the 32 best qualified people in all of football? By hiring him and keeping him Jerry is telling us that Jason Garrett is the most qualified and deserving person for the job. I know it's situational but it is simple, is he the most deserving qualified person for the job?
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  5. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    did you really just post a list almost completely prior to the superbowl era? lol
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  6. CowboyFan4Eva

    CowboyFan4Eva Benched

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    Why can't people understand this???
  7. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    Garrett for 9 years in the "NFL." What about Jim Harbaugh? Since you put emphasis on the "NFL." He's only been coaching in the "NFL" for 3 years.
  8. wileedog

    wileedog Well-Known Member

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    I truly don't get why this is so hard to understand. You simply cannot compare Garrett and Hoodie's inital coaching jobs.

    Bellichick worked under a HOF coach for years and had numerous successful stints in numerous places before even being given a shot .Garret was a QB coach for one year before we made him an OC under Wade flippin Phillips, the classic "nice coordinator, terrible HC" guy. Then was given full control.

    The damn owner that hired him is making comments about all of the mistakes that he has made and 'learning on the job', what more do you need to know?
  9. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    Yup, the other person said that Cleveland has ALWAYS sucked.
  10. wileedog

    wileedog Well-Known Member

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    And is going to his third NFC Championship game in 3 years. Wake me when Garrett wins more than 8 games.
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  11. TheCount

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    My emphasis was on 16 years, I even bolded it for you. The point is coaching experience. Whether you want to talk NFL, College, High School, Pee-Wee - the fact of the matter is that Garrett has very little experience coaching.

    Garrett has 8 years btw, but nice try sneaking 2014 in there already. Not that it even matters if you're trying to compare that to Bellichick's 38 years coaching.
  12. links18

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    Why make it a personal attack?
  13. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    So is that a Garrett problem or a personnel problem. Does Garrett play defense? Does he really have any say so over the cards he's dealt?
  14. Coy

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    I won't get into details because I am no expert on the matter, but that is just not true, just know that he had over 5 different starting QB's in his 5 years in Cleveland that included Kosar at the end of his career (Belichick cut him), Rypien after Washington, Tomzcak, a guy named Philcox and Testaverde, that alone should tell you what kind of teams he was coaching.

    By the way, he had been coaching for quite a while before that, he coached for the Giants for 12 years before getting to cleveland, and he won 2 SB.
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  15. waving monkey

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    Here is a question worth wrestling with.First I don't know. The complaints are play calling and time management [correct if me if you disagree]. Many have said his putting together a good program.Others are complaining his scheme is twenty years out dated but look at Jim Harbaugh's offensive scheme seems traditional to me.We are tired of the OJT and I can see that.Yes it is situational.
  16. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    And Garrett had no part in that? That was all coach cupcake?
  17. dcowboysfan76

    dcowboysfan76 Well-Known Member

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    9 years in the NFL as a coach is hardly little experience. Garrett is 47 and Belichick is 61.
  18. TTexasTT

    TTexasTT Well-Known Member

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    personal? in what way?
  19. CrownCowboy

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    Of course that's what Jerry Jones is hoping for.

    The problem here is that Belicheat never had the mental blunders that Garrett has had. It would be different if it was a one time thing but people need to understand that HE has lost us games for the last three years in ways I've never seen. I thought before this season that the wild losses was all used up, but he was able to surprise me and lose games in even more unimaginable ways thanks to his mental gaffes.

    Garrett is in way over his head. The stuff he struggles with like time management and end of game situations are and were never a problem for the great coaches, even when they were learning.
  20. wileedog

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    Yes, it's a Garrett problem.

    The 'personnel' didn't decide to abandon the run in the 2nd half against GB. The 'personnel' didn't ice their own kicker. The 'personnel' didn't decide to hire a relic to coach an ancient 4-3 defensive scheme. The 'personnel' didn't call plays that dictated Romo throw in key situations where a run was absolutely called for. The 'personnel' didn't mismanage the clock in countless ways over the past 3 years.

    And last I checked, the HC is responsible for the offense AND the defense. If the D is historically bad, that is not just on the DC or even just on the terribad owner/GM, its also on the HC who obviously did not manage games with the knowledge that his defense was horrific or having any answer for it whatsoever.
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