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Why the hell is Glenn on Moss?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Hiero, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    Why the **** did that moron zimmer put ****ing glenn our slowest DB on their fastest ****ing receiver twice in a row. especially after he got beat deep once, you would think they would switch Newman over at least so Glenn doesnt keep getting beat deep, and so RW doesnt have deep responsibilities because we all know hes worthless at that.
    Horrible coaching this game, downright disgusting.
  2. Eddie

    Eddie Well-Known Member

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    You have so many Y's in your statement, I'd think you were a Math teacher.
  3. hipfake08

    hipfake08 Well-Known Member

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    Same thing I was thinking. Where was the deep coverage.
    Where was Newman.
    Should he have been on the WR wide alone.
    The slot WR you get inside help on?????
  4. cowboys#1

    cowboys#1 Finish!

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    for some reason newman and henry only cover the out recv. not the slots...??
  5. sacase

    sacase Well-Known Member

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    Dallas Moves Newman to the slot since in three receiver sets your best reciever is typically in the slot.
  6. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    After Glenn was beat the first time, there is no reason why Newman or Henry shouldnt have been placed on Santana Moss, this is why you pay those guys all the money you are paying them.

    The Cowboys employ the "Corners play their side" as opposed to putting the Best Corners on the Best Wide Receivers.

    That was the biggest mistake of the game.

    - Mike G.
  7. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    thats a horrible idea. all you have to do is line up crappy receivers on the outside, and line up TO in the slot, is TO going to be guarded by Glenn? I sure hope not, unless we want to get blown out by 60 points.
  8. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    This happened time and time again last year during the Monday Nighter against Philly, a game I was at.

    Since they employ this scheme, everytime T.O. went in motion, you would have him on #30 every now and then.

    - Mike G.
  9. DipChit

    DipChit New Member

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    Not that it's anything new. You might remember in '95 when we picked up Deion and in that regular season game against the Niners, one of their first plays from scrimmage was lining up Rice in the slot. Instead of Deion (or even any CB covering him) we lined up Woodson on the slot receiver (Rice).

    80 yard TD pass to Rice later, we prolly might've figured that wasnt very smart.
  10. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    Yep.

    I am just curious to know how much influence Mike Zimmer has over the defensive playcalling. Parcells doesnt seem to be putting too much input into the offense, so I wonder if he is calling a majority of the defensive plays or is it Zimmer.

    All I know is, if I am the CEO of a company and I am going up against a Rival company, I am gonna make sure I put my highest paid and best employees on the oppositions' best employees.

    - Mike G.
  11. Canadian BoyzFan

    Canadian BoyzFan Active Member

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    Did anyone tape the game? Was there motion, or a big shift that led to the mis-match?
  12. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    It's frustrating, isn't it? By being so predictable, we let the offense dictate to us every time.

    Last year for a few games, at times we'd flip our corners and Frazier played left while Newman went right, I assume so teams couldn't do this very thing and easily target whomever they wanted (meaning Frazier). Then later, we got away from doing that, even though it seemed to work well. It's one of the questions I wished a reporter would ask Parcells about at a PC.
  13. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    There was no motion. Like another poster said, in Nickel, Glenn lines up with Henry outside and Newman is playing the Nickel.

    Both times Glenn played off Moss a bit and rightfully so because of his speed. I just dont understand why Henry wasnt placed over Moss, I dont know, I am going to stop dwelling on it because it is just going to make me become the Office Linebacker here at work, and I would really like to keep my job :).

    - Mike G.
  14. Maikeru-sama

    Maikeru-sama Mick Green 58

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    I goes back to the Campo days. I wonder if it had to do with the fact that we had pretty strong Corners in the old days and it really had no real value to Campo to place a particular corner on a wideout.

    Dunno

    JJT if ya listening, you may want to make yourself useful and ask somebody this question.

    - Mike G.
  15. TheHustler

    TheHustler Active Member

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    One of the things I hate, is Dallas doesn't use it's CBs to follow WRs. Newman is always on his side, Henry on the other. When it's a 3 WR set, Newman will always go to the slot.

    Doesn't make sense =/
  16. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    seriously, is this like a high school team? youre in the NFL and you can make these tiny adjustments. "lets just line them up and whoever appears in front of them doesnt matter" isnt a good defensive philosophy for the DB's. they need to be able to adjust to different wr's as our db's all have different strengths. put these strengths to work instead of using them to our disadvantage.

    i guess thats too much to ask for one of the best nfl coaches of all time
  17. scottsp

    scottsp Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem for me. If your coverage assignments are this static, teams will continue to adjust and find those matchups. If we are facing the Raiders, and they're lining up Moss in the slot, I understand wanting Newman there.

    But the Skins adjusted accordingly. They worked Chris Cooley in the slot and he wore Terrence Newman as a result.

    Because after all, Chris Cooley is the one guy you just can't allow to get loose.
  18. scottsp

    scottsp Well-Known Member

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    It's bothering me as well. I don't understand why the adjustment would not be countered by us. In this situation anyway.

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