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Why you should be excited about Brian Waters.

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by SHAMSzy, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. Nirvana

    Nirvana Well-Known Member

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    Be lucky to get a conditional 7th for either one I think. There are lots of Arkins and Costas out there.
  2. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Some folks see the downside in every Cowboy deal. Not sure why. Waters should be a huge upgrade over Free at G or Bearnadeau and at a reasonable price.
  3. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    LOL!

    You don't even want to assume that a 1st or 2nd rounder is going start.
  4. MichaelWinicki

    MichaelWinicki "You want some?" Staff Member

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    There's going to be an upgrade... the question is how much?

    We'll find out.
  5. Doomsay

    Doomsay Well-Known Member

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    It would be neat if you could share your understanding of this radical difference with us.
  6. AmberBeer

    AmberBeer Well-Known Member

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    Big upgrade if he's in good shape. Guy's a beast at OG.
  7. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    We'd be unlikely to get anything for Arkin, I would think. Costa, though, would net a pick if we wanted to dangle one. I'd rather keep the depth right now, though.
  8. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Belicheat owes ALL his success to Waters. And he willingly let Waters go so he could rest for a year and then return him to the Super Bowl glory years.

    But let us give Waters a chance to see what he can do.
  9. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    For most of them, though, they were in decline before they left the game. Waters went out still playing at a high level. He had not lost a step.

    Has he in the year since he decided to head home? That's the question, but there's no real evidence from the last time he played to say it's happened.
  10. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    I don't know if he really retired in his head. Last year, he couldn't play because the Patriots owned his rights. It was either stay in New England or come home to Texas and sit out the year, and he wanted to come home and be with his family for personal reasons.

    As Garrett said today, Dallas has been in contact with Waters since the start of camp, which Waters clearly did not want to intend. That's not the behavior of a man who's retired in his head. He wanted to stay in Texas and play football, so he kept himself in good physical condition and he got his wish.
  11. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    One of the things I wonder is how closely Waters watched the team in the preseason, if at all.

    Since he and Dallas have been negotiating since the beginning of camp, and I'm fairly sure Waters knew he'd eventually agree to a deal once camp ended, I wonder if he "studied" his role and his teammates to get a jump on things.
  12. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    All Cowboy fans should be happy to have a quality and proven guard at a bargain price.:cool:
  13. Texas_Pete

    Texas_Pete Well-Known Member

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    I am excited for the following reasons:

    1. In 12 NFL seasons, Waters has allowed 18 sacks and committed 18 false starts, according to Stats Inc. Waters was the best pass-blocking guard in 2011, according to Pro Football Focus. (stole these stats from BTB :D). Wow.
    2. DM29 should start looking like he did at OU - where he broke a lot of Adrian Peterson's records.
    3. Romo should have an extra second or two to find open weapons down the field. Let's be honest here. Who should be able to lock down Dez one on one - with a finally healthy Austin, and an always dependable Witten when they're clicking? Romo will get serious MVP consideration this year.
    4. Because we will have an improved running game, we should dominate time of possession. Our defense started out like gangbusters last year only fizzle out due to injuries and being on the field too much. If we dominate time of possession, look out.
    5. TFred has already played well. Wait till he is playing next to Waters - and learn from him.
    6. Free should benefit from playing next to Waters as well.
    7. Ditto for Leary. Man, I'm salivating at the thoughts of the potential of our interior line.
    8. Running game in December. This one is huge. Romo won't have to feel like he has to do it all. He can handoff the ball to DM29, etc., and simply manage the game.
    9. No Livings. No Bern. No Free at Guard.
    10. OL is now considered a strength. To quote Steven Jones (BTB):
    LINK

    I can't wait to hear haters like Screaming A Smith try to downplay what the 'boys have done. ;)
  14. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Stackin and Processin, Well

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    I'm excited because off the couch he's better than Leary, Livings, Arkin, Berny, etc.

    I'm not excited because we're 2-3 years late on the deal, when he hit the open market a few years back we opted to go with Derrick Dockery to save a few pennies, while Waters went on to the pro bowl in New England.

    Which is why, we're the Cowboys and they're the Patriots. Football games are won in the offseason and in the front office, not between the white lines.
  15. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    They chose not to sign Waters a 2-3 years ago -- they had to give Rat, Free, and Scandrick extensions instead..... :p
  16. dallasdave

    dallasdave Well-Known Member

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    Waters will be the best guard the Cowboys have this season.
  17. coult44

    coult44 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if anyone on this site has complained and been more negative about the OL than I have. This move has shut me up and made me feel 10000% better than I did only a week ago. Do I wish we could have signed more guys in the trenches earlier? Yes. But better late than never, and if this works out like I think it will, Watch out NFL, here come the Dallas Cowboys!!!!
  18. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    Everything can't always be rainbows and butterflies, it is compromise that moves us along.
  19. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    With Candice. If you are going to get way out there you might as well get way, way on out there.
  20. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    If a worm had a machine gun the birds wouldn't try to eat him. I'm sure a month ago Jerry Jones said to himself....I could sign Waters now, but that is what the other teams would be expecting...... besides, I love to piss off those negative Cowboyszoners, so I will wait until the last minute, just to piss them off.

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