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Will McClay talks Jerry

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  1. TwoDeep3

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    St. Louis Rams - Les Snead


    Snead was hired by the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars as a pro scout, where he worked until 1997, when he was hired by the Atlanta Falcons to the same position, but also served as the director of pro/player personnel.[2] On February 10, 2012, the Rams announced that they had hired Snead as their new general manager.


    San Francisco 49ers - Trent Baalke


    Trent John Baalke (/ˈbɑːlkiː/ BAHL-kee) is the General Manager of the San Francisco 49ers, an American football team in the National Football League (NFL). He was officially named General Manager in January 2011,[1] though he had been responsible for the duties of a general manager since Scot McCloughan's departure from the team in March 2010. He was first hired by the 49ers in 2005 as their Western Region Scout, and three years later was promoted to Director of Player Personnel, a position largely responsible for overseeing the team's college scouting operations. Baalke was chosen to lead the 49ers in the 2010 NFL Draft in place of McCloughan, and a month later was given the title of Vice President of Player Personnel.[2] His official promotion to General Manager came shortly after the firing of Mike Singletary as head coach of the 49ers, in anticipation of needing an official GM to lure Jim Harbaugh away from Stanford for the vacant coaching position.


    Arizona Cardinals - Steve Keim


    Steve Keim is the general manager of the Arizona Cardinals of the National Football League. He was promoted to the position on January 8, 2013 after spending the previous 14 years in the Cardinals front office. He played college football at NC State.


    Atlanta Falcons - Thomas Dimitroff


    Early career

    After graduating from college, Dimitroff joined the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the Canadian Football League as their Canadian scouting coordinator, but worked in many areas of the team's operations for the two seasons he was there.[4] In 1992, he worked in the Dallas, Texas office of the World League of American Football, tracking NFL player transactions and rosters.[4] When the league folded later that year, Dimitroff moved to Japan, where he helped coach a friend's corporate American football team.[4]


    Dimitroff then considered leaving the football world for business, but instead he went back to the United States, where he joined the Cleveland Browns' grounds crew; his father was a scout for the team at the time.[4] There he worked under then-head coach Bill Belichick and then-pro personnel assistant Scott Pioli. At the same time, he worked as a part-time scout for the Kansas City Chiefs in 1993.[4] In 1994, Dimitroff became a full-time area scout for the Detroit Lions, a position he held through 1997. He then held a similar college scouting position with the Browns from 1998 through 2001.


    New England Patriots

    In 2002, Dimitroff re-joined Belichick and Pioli with the New England Patriots as a national scout. He spent the season reporting on the nation's top prospects before being promoted to director of college scouting on June 11, 2003. He oversaw the team's college scouting operations through the 2007 season.



    After six seasons with the Patriots, Dimitroff was hired as the Falcons' general manager on January 13, 2008.
  2. TwoDeep3

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    Carolina Panthers - Dave Gettleman


    Dave Gettleman is the General Manager of the Carolina Panthers, an American football team in the National Football League. He began his football career as a teacher-coach at Spackenkill High School in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. As the head coach from 1973-78 and 1980-81, Gettleman led his teams to two league titles, competing against schools twice the size as Spackenkill. He spent a season as a volunteer assistant at Cal State Long Beach in 1979. Gettleman joined the faculty of Kingston High School in 1982 and became the head coach in 1984, leading his team to a Section I Bowl berth. He entered the NFL in 1986 as an intern for the Buffalo Bills.[1] He spent the next seven years working in their scouting department before leaving to accept a scouting job with the Denver Broncos after the 1993 season. In 1998 he was hired by the New York Giants, who promoted him to Pro Personnel Director the next year. In 2012 he was given the title of Senior Pro Personnel Analyst, and in January 2013 he was chosen to become the General Manager of the Carolina Panthers. Overall, Gettleman has been a part of eight Super Bowl teams, including three winners.


    New Orleans Saints - Mickey Loomis


    Before coming to the Saints, Loomis spent 15 years in the Seattle Seahawks organization. Loomis joined the Saints in 2000 and became general manager in 2002. He was with the Saints when they were forced to relocate to San Antonio in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, and helped rebuild the team afterward, culminating in its victory in Super Bowl XLIV.


    Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jason Licht


    Front office assistant

    In 1995, Licht was hired by then-Miami Dolphins scout Tom Heckert as a scouting assistant before serving as the Dolphins' offensive assistant/quality control coach in 1996. He then spent the 1997 season working for the college scouting agency National Football Scouting and the 1998 season in the Carolina Panthers' scouting department. From 1999 through 2000, Licht served as a college scout for the Patriots before being promoted to national scout for the 2001. He then was promoted to assistant director of player personnel in 2002, a position he held for one season before re-joining Heckert, then the Philadelphia Eagles' vice president of player personnel, in 2003 as the Eagles' assistant director of player personnel.[3]


    Upon Heckert's promotion to general manager in 2006, Licht was elevated to vice president of player personnel, but was fired by the team in May 2008.[4] In June 2008, Licht was hired by the Arizona Cardinals as a personnel executive.[5] He left the Cardinals and returned to the Patriots as their director of pro personnel in February 2009.


    In 2012, Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo was fired by the team. During the team's hunt, Licht was among the candidates for the general manager job, and he and Phil Emery were the two finalists.[6][7][8] The Bears hired Emery, and Licht returned to Arizona as the Cardinals' director of player personnel beginning in 2012 and was promoted to vice president of player personnel in January 2013.


    Licht has been on staff with one Super Bowl Champion (New England-2001), 2 NFC Championship teams (Philadelphia-2004, Arizona-2008), and 2 AFC Championship teams (New England in 2001, 2011).


    General Manager

    On January 21, 2014, Licht was hired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to fill its General Manager position.
  3. TwoDeep3

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    Chicago Bears

    2012

    In 2012, Bears general manager Jerry Angelo was fired after 11 seasons with the team. During the team's search, Emery was one of the four candidates, and was one of the two finalists for the job, along with Arizona Cardinals director of pro personnel Jason Licht.


    Detroit Lions - Martin Mayhew


    After retiring from the NFL, Mayhew attended Georgetown University Law Center. He graduated in 2000 with a J.D. degree. Mayhew initially was the Senior Vice President and later promoted to acting General Manager of the Detroit Lions after the firing of Matt Millen. On December 29, 2008 it was announced that Mayhew would be officially promoted to General Manager. Mayhew's first move as acting General Manager was the trade of wide receiver Roy Williams and a 7th round draft choice to the Dallas Cowboys for Dallas' 1st, 3rd and 6th round draft choices in the 2009 NFL draft. In the 2011 NFL Season, Mayhew's Detroit Lions made the playoffs for the first time since 1999.


    Green Bay Packers - Ted Thompson


    Career as a player

    Ted Thompson played college football at Southern Methodist University starting three years at linebacker intercepting seven passes during his career.[1] During Thompson's senior year he served as a team captain and was also the team's place kicker.[2]


    As an undrafted free agent in 1975, Thompson was signed by the Houston Oilers. The Oilers' GM and coach was Bum Phillips who had briefly coached Thompson at Southern Methodist. Thompson won a spot as a back-up linebacker and special teams player and held this position for 10 years. Although Thompson only started eight games during his career, he proved durable playing in 146 of 147 games. In a 1981 game against the New York Jets, Thompson successfully converted four extra-point attempts as the emergency kicker.[3]
  4. TwoDeep3

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    Front office

    Green Bay Packers (scout)

    In 1992 Ted Thompson was hired by Ron Wolf as a scout for the Green Bay Packers. Thompson worked for the Packers through the 1999 season when former Packers' head coach Mike Holmgren recruited Thompson to join the Seattle Seahawks. During Thompson's time with the Packers as a scout, the Packers advanced to the playoffs six times, participating in two Super Bowls and winning Super Bowl XXXI[4]


    Seattle Seahawks

    Thompson worked for the Seattle Seahawks as Vice President of Football Operations, also heading Seattle's scouting department and running the draft boards. He worked alongside former Packers and Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren, who was Seattle's GM at the time.


    During Thompson's tenure in Seattle, the Seahawks advanced to the playoffs twice. In 2005, following Thompson's departure to the Packers the Seahawks had their best success in team history, reaching the Super Bowl. Many of the players on Seattle's Super Bowl team were acquired under Thompson's direction, including HB Shaun Alexander, WR Darrell Jackson, OG Steve Hutchinson, CB Marcus Trufant, and K Josh Brown,


    In an interview with Mike Holmgren in 2009, Holmgren noted that "Once Ted Thompson came on board and we settled down a little bit, we started making good decisions."[5]


    Green Bay Packers (general manager)

    2005

    Thompson replaced Mike Sherman as general manager of the Packers in 2005.
  5. CyberB0b

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    Newsome was with the Browns from 1991-1995 and was with the Ravens from 1996-2002, when he was promoted to GM. He had 11 years of experience as a professional NFL executive before being promoted to General Manager.
  6. TwoDeep3

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    Minnesota Vikings - Rick Spielman


    Playing career

    Spielman played linebacker at Southern Illinois (1983–86), earning 1st-Team All-Gateway Conference honoree as a junior. He was also part of the 1983 NCAA Division I-AA national championship team as a redshirt freshman. Upon entering the NFL, as an undrafted free agent, he was invited to training camp with the San Diego Chargers (1987) and Detroit Lions (1988), but did not make it as a professional football player.[2]


    Career in scouting

    Spielman began his NFL career as a scout with Detroit in 1990 and worked with the club in college scouting for five seasons before adding pro scouting duties in 1995 and 1996. He moved to Director of Pro Personnel for the Bears from 1997 to 1999 before joining the Dolphins in 2000 as Vice President of Player Personnel. He was promoted in 2002 to Senior Vice President-Football Operations/Player Personnel and eventually General Manager in 2004. Spielman left the Dolphins during the 2005 off-season.


    Spielman worked with ESPN as an NFL analyst in 2005, before joining the Minnesota Vikings.[2]


    Minnesota Vikings


    Playing career

    Spielman played linebacker at Southern Illinois (1983–86), earning 1st-Team All-Gateway Conference honoree as a junior. He was also part of the 1983 NCAA Division I-AA national championship team as a redshirt freshman. Upon entering the NFL, as an undrafted free agent, he was invited to training camp with the San Diego Chargers (1987) and Detroit Lions (1988), but did not make it as a professional football player.[2]


    Career in scouting

    Spielman began his NFL career as a scout with Detroit in 1990 and worked with the club in college scouting for five seasons before adding pro scouting duties in 1995 and 1996. He moved to Director of Pro Personnel for the Bears from 1997 to 1999 before joining the Dolphins in 2000 as Vice President of Player Personnel. He was promoted in 2002 to Senior Vice President-Football Operations/Player Personnel and eventually General Manager in 2004. Spielman left the Dolphins during the 2005 off-season.


    Spielman worked with ESPN as an NFL analyst in 2005, before joining the Minnesota Vikings.[2]



    Spielman assumed the Vikings' Vice President of Player Personnel role on May 30, 2006, replacing Fran Foley.


    He was promoted to General Manager in 2012 after spending 2006–2011 as the team's Vice President of Player Personnel.


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    While not all roads to GM have been paved with decades of working their way up, the vast majority have.




    I assume you can get off your duff and look up the AFC
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  7. Wolfpack

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    11 years before he was named GM I think is correct. Art Model loved Ozzie and brought him in the Front Office.
  8. TwoDeep3

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    So when I posted a response, you ignored what I said because you are positing what people who know say. Is that right?

    Each of the people who have been quoted on this board from inside the oprganization have said one thing that is consistent.

    Jerry makes the final decision.
  9. TwoDeep3

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    Jerry has said this so many times it is incredible they are the Dallas Cowboys and not the JOnes Cowboys.

    This isn't speculation.
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  10. TwoDeep3

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    So...? Any comment now?
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  11. TrailBlazer

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    +1
  12. TrailBlazer

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    Not everything can be Jerry's fault. But at some point you have to admit some of the moves the team makes are very questionable. It's starts with Jerry. Hopefully McClay is the de facto GM and can get us over the hump.
  13. CyberB0b

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    [IMG]

    The only people who are enjoying this joke of a franchise are the ones who can hang on to "we made the playoffs 6/18 years"
  14. Doomsay

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    Excellent characterization for anybody that thinks that Jerry is a remotely competent manager despite having the second fewest playoff victories of any manager over the past decade and a half. Flat-Earthers, deniers of empirical facts.
  15. Yakuza Rich

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    Yes, lots of owners will do this. Robert Kraft would do that. Belichick and Company came in and were unified in their thoughts. When Parcells was in there, they were not and Kraft decided to make the decision for himself instead of leaving it to a 2-time winning Super Bowl coach that resurrected a moribund franchise.

    The scary part of McClay's quote is that he has to 'get the coaches to respect the scouts.'

    If you don't want Jerry making the call, then you need a unified voice. It's as simple as that.






    YR
  16. TwoDeep3

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    I agree with what you said. However, there is a voice here that believes this means things have changed. That this guy has some special power like no one before.

    That is not supported by his comment.

    He is taking the decisions to Jerry.

    He needs for people to respect the scouts to they have a consensus.

    With a consensus Jerry doesn't have a decision to make.

    Ergo, this is business as usual with Jerry making the final call if there are two schools of thought on what the draft pick should be.

    Nothing has changed.
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  17. WPBCowboysFan

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    So either Jerry is pretty much doing what most normal GM's do, or McClay is brown nosing for job security . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/a...e8-8d6804375766?campaign=dal:fanshare:twitter


    McClay Bridging Coach, Scout Gap; Says Jones Listens


    Rowan KavnerIRVING, Texas – For assistant director of player personnel Will McClay and the scouting department, this time of year is their game day.
    That’s how McClay described it this weekend on 105.3 FM “The Fan” as the scouts evaluate college players and put their board together. He said evaluating and discussing the different possibilities to make the team better with the draft fast approaching is the exciting part of the process.
    He said there’s a misconception, though, that owner/general manager Jerry Jones doesn’t listen and takes matters entirely into his own hands during this time.
    “What Jerry does is take in that information,” McClay said. “My job is to try to get the guys to try to have somewhat of a unified voice and looking at things the right way and have a process that’s consistent so that the information that comes to him is consistent. He listens to us, and he believes in the scouts. He’s going to take the input of the coaches and the scouts.”

    McClay said sometimes there’s a general situation throughout football organizations that the coaches and scouts don’t see eye to eye all the time.
    “We’re trying to bridge that gap,” he said.
    Given his background, McClay understands the importance of involving coaches in that process. McClay originally came to Dallas as a member of the Dallas Desperados Arena Football League coaching staff, working his way up to head coach before getting back into evaluating personnel.
    “We want to find out what the coaches want,” McClay said. “We also want the coaches to respect the work the scouts put in and the information we have and take all that information, put it in a pot, mix it up and be able to give Jerry the right information as best as we know how and help him make the right decision.”
    McClay spends between 15 and 18 hours a day at Valley Ranch around this time, studying players and trying to create that synergy between departments. When it comes time to draft, he considers both the team’s needs and the best available player and said a balance between the two is important. He said a team shouldn’t enter the draft without the thought of what their needs are.
    “We look at what we need on the team for now and in the future,” McClay said. “But as you build a team, in this day and age, this game is played in space, so you need speed. One of the first things we look at is speed. They’ve got to be a good football player and the character has to fit…but we’re looking for speed.”

    The scouts also figure out which players fit best into the Cowboys’ defensive philosophy. McClay said it’s essential they find value in the lower rounds to come in quickly and compete. He also said head coach Jason Garrett has emphasized the importance of making sure every player is in the right position to maximize their potential.
    That’s something the scouting department will have to consider this week at the NFL Scouting Combine.
    “The college scouts go out on the road, gather information, they have their sources,” McClay said. “This is really our first opportunity to interact with those guys, find out how they’re going to react to some of the questions and things we ask them… we’re also aware of what we’re putting them into and trying to see if there’s a fit.”

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