Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by garyv, Mar 26, 2010.
Taylor Mays......I just feel it !!!
If Earl Thomas and/or Mike Iupati aren't available, then Maurkice Pouncey is a Cowboy.
I heard Broadus on DC's show last night say he believes Dallas is hoping Mays and Campbell are selected by the time we get on the clock because he believes it will push a good player to us if that happens.
He feels like Dallas learned their lesson with Roy Williams and won't select Mays.
He also felt like Dallas will take the best player there and thats why they are doing their homework on guys like Dez Bryant.
With the 27th pick in the draft the cowboys take....the draft zone where this should have been posted.
I have to go back and watch that Minnesota game again. I was not aware the difference between losing and advancing was a better back-up center.
We have done nothing in Free Agency and last year's draft was about depth. We need to add some talent to this already pretty darn good football team to push us over the top.
I doubt Dez Bryant drops to 27th. If the Cowboys draft Dez, they are trading up to do it. Dez Bryant IMO is a WR that can contribute substantially today. (best in the draft) As long as his ego doesn't disrupt, I think a combo of Austin / Dez Bryant could compare to the likes of Fitzgerald / Boldin or Harrison / Wayne.
The WR I most liken to Dez Bryant is Chad Johnson. (Ocho Cinco) I think Bryant is a better talent than Crabtree.
Campbell's a lock for the Raiders.....
What lesson was there to learn with Roy? He was a star here for a while before he fell off.
Actually, if we got Pouncey, then we could START him at either guard or center. If at center, than Gurode moves over to Kosier's spot. This potential shift has been discussed for quite a few years now.
I was listening to Broaddus last night on DC's show and he said that he went back and watched every game in 2009 for the Cowboys and made the conclusion that there needs to be an upgrade at the center position, and he's baffled with how Gurode makes the Pro Bowl every year. Plus, Pouncey can play guard, and with Kosier being in a contract year, he could step right in after. So Pouncey is a solid pick, and the Cowboys really wanted Max Unger last year but got too cute and he went right before our slot.
Cause we've shown such a love for moving and benching starters? If we draft Pouncey, he won't see the field till next year as long as we bring everyone back.
Mayock seems to think this guy is possibly the most NFL ready guy in the entire draft. He says draft him and plug him iright away for a decade.
That's just one opinion, but I've heard similar comments from others.
As for safety Roy Williams...I agree he was a stud early in his career. He did make the Pro Bowl 5 times. Ahough the last two may have not really been deserved, a 3 time legit Pro Bowler is pretty awesome. It shocks me how people so easily forget his early years.
Kozier struggled against Fat Albert. Pouncey maybe a better option down the road.....
I agree. I really think Pouncey is the most "NFL ready" offensive linemen. Plug him in the interior (whether it's center or guard) for the next ten years.
I don't think anybody learned anything through the Roy Williams' fiasco. There's a reason Roy fell off and that's just because he wasn't fast or quick enough to take care of his coverage responsibilities. Also he wasn't heady enough to make up for his physical shortcomings. So everyone sees a big, physical safety and just screams Roy Williams through a fit of terror.
I don't disagree that he's NFL ready, I'm talking about the way the Cowboys do things. They avoid starting rookies by any means necessary, so I don't see how Pouncey could possibly put Koiser on the bench this year, much less facilitate the position change of a Pro-Bowl center, especially as a rookie.
I posted this question in another thread..just looking for a quick answer without having to start another Mays thread..bc there have been so many..
can someone please explain the following for me? How was Taylor Mays such a highly touted prospect after the 2008 season (considered the best safety in the country and a bonafide top 10 pick) and has changed to a guy many are now calling a likely bust at safety? The biggest ARGUMENT I hear against Mays is that he does not MAKE enough plays and never did make plays at USC..However, if he never made plays, how was he ever considered a top 10 pick? Because, he absolutely was considered a stud prior to this past year.
Let me make this clear, I am not for or against Taylor Mays, I just want to better understand. Thanks.
It's just the fact that he stayed for his Senior year and had a bit of a down year. He missed more open field tackles as a Senior. The extra scrutiny is hurting him.
I have a really strong gut feeling that Taylor Mays is going to be a realistic option (from availability to the cowboys being interested in selecting him) at 27..I just want to make sure I have a good feel for what we should do once the opportunity presents itself like it probably will...This guy was considered an absolute stud just a year ago..I have a hard time believing he is all of a sudden a waste of a player
I agree and I disagree. I agree in that the RW comparisons are just stupid. RW was a stud early on and put up some good numbers. He just fell off, like you said they see a similar playing style and they automatically assume RW 2.0. RW was a decent in coverage the first couple years. I disagree in that I get the notion that you like Mays. I think he'll never be the player RW was, and he can't cover a thing. Would you feel comfortable plugging him in for Hamlin, as a centerfielder type FS?