Would you be willing to trade up in the draft?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Jay, Feb 9, 2005.

  1. Jay

    Jay Active Member

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    Everyone seems to be big on Braylon Edwards and Mike Williams, and I won't hide it, because I sure as hell am too. Mike Williams moreso than Edwards, but both of these guys are just players.

    But.. Am I the only one that doesn't think we have a prayer to see one of them fall to us at #11? I think the Bears at #4 and the Redskins at #9 will take these two off the boards. You figure that the talk is that Rod Gardner will be gone from Washington, so they're going to be looking for someone..

    And.. that scares me, alot. Especially with our secondary.

    Would anyone be willing to move up from #11 to right in front of the Redskins to steal a WR from them? I think this move could really pay off in the long run. The Redskins already have a solid defense, and a big playmaking WR can really put them up there. Imagine facing Coles (well, with Roy in the secondary I don't know if that's really a problem ;) ), and then Edwards/Williams along with Portis.

    They could be a dangerous team next year, and I'm starting to think it would benefit us greatly to jump in front of them and steal a WR. I know this is a deep draft for WR's, but having Edwards/Williams to deal with in the East would be one hell of a job.


  2. chicago JK

    chicago JK Well-Known Member

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    No i wouldn't move up. This draft lacks the true studs in the draft but is pretty deep in the first 2 rounds. We have two many holes and I wouldn't be surprised if all three picks (even if we move around a little bit) wind up being front 7 defensive players.
  3. LA=Pancakemaker

    LA=Pancakemaker Benched

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    Not at all, there not worth it. Defense wins championships, we need to get a lb that can catch too, send him out in the flat on 3rd and short after hes pancaked a lineman.
  4. Jay

    Jay Active Member

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    I suppose after watching Mike Williams absolute terrorize defenses is what scares me the most. Especially with a recent interview saying that he's ran a 4.46 40 recently..

    I mean - would you guys be angry if we moved up in front of them? I mean, this is just a random draft idea I'm throwin' out there, I just wanted to hear a discussion about it.
  5. chicago JK

    chicago JK Well-Known Member

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    I like Mike Williams and I will gladly take him at 11, although he is a lot closer to Keyshawn Johnson then he is to TO or Randy Moss IMO. Keyshawn dominated in college also and broke a lot of long runs. In the pros he turned into a very good possession receiver.
  6. Jay

    Jay Active Member

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    Another question that I was pondering - I don't see the Bears getting a WR from the University of Michigan if you catch my drift.

    Terrell anyone?

    I think I'd be willing to if BMW was there at #11, but I don't even know if I'd draft Edwards at #11.

    But consider this - Let's say it's draft time, and as of right now we've got Vinny and Henson on our roster.

    A big stud WR would help greatly with Henson's progression into the game.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I would not be angry but I would not do it either. Basically, he's not going to be any better then TO is in Philly. Regardless of where these guys land, we're going to have to develope a defense that can shut down Philly. If we can create that type of defense, then it will work on whom ever we line up against. That is my take on this deal.
  8. Jay

    Jay Active Member

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    That's a great point ABQ, I guess it's a little early for me and I'm not thinking the clearest. :rolleyes:

    I just found the article with Parcells and MW very interesting. It was from last summer do you guys remember that article?
  9. Derinyar

    Derinyar Well-Known Member

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    I hope both the WR's and both the QB's go ahead of us. Gives us a better shot of picking up what we really need, a good DL or a good LB.

    I don't think theres anyone in this draft worth trading up to get, unless we can do it for a decent player to a team thats looking for that piece. It just doesn't make sense. Theres no world beater in the draft. I think we are much more likely to trade down, then to go the other way.
  10. Cradle

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    if you ask me theres a few special players in every draft. and mike williams is the one in this draft.

    last year the special players were eli manning, roy williams and i still think the "chosen one" from FSU (his season being cut short by injury though.)

    but yes i would move ahead of the redskins to take MW. then i would try and trade keyshawn for a 3rd rounder.
  11. ghst187

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    If the Bears don't take MW, we'd be writing our own death sentence if we let the foreskins take him. He'd kill us 2x a year every year for the next 10 years. I hope that either the Bears take him (most likely scenario) or we trade with Arizona to get him ourselves. I admit that I'd be scared to see MW go to DC.
  12. tyke1doe

    tyke1doe Well-Known Member

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    Who was the chosen one?

    No, I would not move up to get Mike Williams. Receivers are a dime a dozen. Build the defense because it wins championships.
  13. Champsheart

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    Mike Williams is the only guy I would consider trading up to get. The key word is CONSIDER.

    A lot depends on what we do in FA. If we fill a lot of holes on the Defense, and we do not have to give up our 2nd round pick then yeah I would do it.

    We do not have a 3rd, so I would assume we would have to give up our 4th, and a couple 6th's or 7th's.
    We rarely pick players worth a darn in those later picks, so why not?

    If we come away with Mike Williams we are a long ways to returing to our Legacy status if you ask me.

    Julius Jones, Mike Williams, and Jason Witten. Those are weapons any defense would have trouble dealing with, and if Henson can be the guy, we would be set for years to come.

    IMO it would all come down to how much we can upgrade the Defense in FA.
  14. TheSkaven

    TheSkaven Last Man Standing

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    I wouldn't move up, but I admit that I'll be really annoyed on draft day if Mike Williams ends up with the Redskins. But, c'est la vie, we have too many needs to move up, especially without a can't miss prospect in the top 10.
  15. Cradle

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    the chosen one was kellen winslow.. that TE that the browns took with the 5th pick i believe. he could make witten and shockey look like scrubs, jk.. no but the guy has amazing speed for his size and strength. hes more like a big WR.
  16. Avery

    Avery The Dog that Saved Charleston

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    No trade ups. We'll get some guys at #11 that weren't expected to be there.
  17. Cradle

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    the way our drafts always turn out, i dont see anything wrong with letting our picks in rounds 4 through 7 go if it means landing an elite prospect.

    like other, i fear the skins getting MW.
  18. lkelly

    lkelly Well-Known Member

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    He's also more like a Miami Hurricane.
  19. Verdict

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    I would not move up with either Round 1 pick, unless we move down first and give up less than we got to move down in the first place. I would be thrilled to see us drop and get Clayton late in the first.
  20. Chuck 54

    Chuck 54 Well-Known Member

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    You don't move up just to move up, but if there's a guy you really believe in and want to have and feel will impact your team in a big way, then you have to move up to get him....the cost is never too much unless you were wrong about the guy, and that's your fault.

    WE've been hurt many more times by not moving up for whom we really wanted and by even moving down than we have by going after the real difference makers.

    It all depends on what you think of the guy you're moving up for.

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