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Would you trade Jaylon Smith for Noah Spence right now?

Discussion in 'Roster Zone' started by Cogan, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    Jaylon Smith was drafted to be a 4-3 LB, not a pass rusher.
     
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  2. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    Guess you don't know about Jaylon Smith. He is a pass rusher
     
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  3. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    I know all about Jaylon Smith.

    Of 4-3 type LBs, he was a very good pass rusher, but he was not drafted to be a pass rusher because 4-3 LBs are normally only used to blitz and that is a very small percentage of their snaps.

    If he gets healthy, I would love to see him rush the passer, but playing LB in Marinellis' defense is not going to result in many pass rush opportunities unless Marinelli suddenly changes his style.

    Seattle and Denver in the past used a 4-3 LB as a pass rusher but most teams don't. Seattle used Bruce Irvin as LB on base downs and sometimes moved him to DE in the Nickel.

    Most people don't realize it, but Denver played a 4-3 with Von Miller as a 4-3 LB until the 2015 season when the brought in Wade Phillips to run the 3-4. Miller was obviously as pass rusher and often lined up at DE in the Nickel.

    Summary: Yes, Jaylon Smith could have been a pass rusher for some 4-3 teams but it is unlikely in Marinelli's 4-3 defense.
     
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  4. Cogan

    Cogan Well-Known Member

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    Not possible, as the Bucs took Spence at #39. Unless we would have traded back up, & that would have cost us both the Collins & Tapper picks, at least. Unless you're talking about Smith falling out of the 2nd round.
     
  5. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about taking spence first and trading back up or jaylon falling out of the 2nd
     
  6. Cogan

    Cogan Well-Known Member

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    If "ifs" & "buts" were candy & nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas...lol! Nice to dream, though.
     
  7. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member

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    Yeah no ****. That's why I said I wish. It's hypothetical. In reality I'd have take spence all day long and if jaylon was gone (all indications point to that not being the case or even close) then so be it.
     
  8. Common Sense

    Common Sense Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty hard to make the argument that anyone else would have drafted Smith in the 2nd round.
     
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  9. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    If the Cowboys were 12-2, we would all have a Merry Christmas...
     
  10. davidA

    davidA New Member

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    no way the upside Jaylon smith is way to high
     
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  11. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    Lool, smh.
     
  12. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    MLB for Cowboys.
     
  13. haleyrules

    haleyrules Well-Known Member

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    Ask this question before next seasons opening game.
     
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  14. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't taken a snap but yes he should be a MLB. That doesn't mean he can't rush the passer, go watch his film
     
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  15. Galian Beast

    Galian Beast Well-Known Member

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    Would be really disappointed if they play him at MLB... He isn't stout enough for the middle. Playing him weakside would be the smartest thing they could do with his speed. Move Lee back to middle.
     
  16. haleyrules

    haleyrules Well-Known Member

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    Will he ever play again and if yes...will he be the same player??
     
  17. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    He played strong-side and ILB for the Irish.

    He had just 4.5 sacks for his career at Notre Dame. To say he is was a pass rusher is like saying Zeke Elliott was a WR at Ohio State.
     
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  18. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    Don't have to. I watched him in college. Just had a feeling.
     
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  19. LatinMind

    LatinMind iPhotoshop

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    .5 sack is .5 sack. He wouldnt even lead RDEs in Dallas with sacks. Mayowa leads Dallas with 6. In probably less than half the snaps Spence has
     
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  20. PJTHEDOORS

    PJTHEDOORS Well-Known Member

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    Cowboys wouldn't make that trade right now. I'll take the dumb Cowboys and their recent draft track record.
     

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