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Would you trade up for Aaron Donald?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by guag, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. CowboyFan74

    CowboyFan74 Cowboys Analyst

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    You mean like another CB/DB? :p
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  2. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    I understand both points of view. I haven't read Nelli's comments on Donald {are there any].
    I am going by the general understanding of the special value of the under tackle in this
    particular defense.If the motor makes this defense go coupled with the buyers market exactly
    because of the deep market then I wont Donald.

    There are some here saying that Donald will get past Chicago [their transitioning to a
    multi- defense].Then of course moving up makes no sense.

    It's a deep defensive tackle class and we can get some quality later on but I wont the best
    at the "motor" position. If it's not possible I'd settle for Jernigann.
  3. theSHOW

    theSHOW Well-Known Member

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    the trade chart says the24 pick in the 3rd round is equal trade value. ouch!
  4. guag

    guag Right Kind of Guy

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    Yeah, that's a bit too rich for my blood. If we could trade up a few spots for a couple of 7th rounders I would consider it.

    I know it's cliche, but his size bothers me now, especially after seeing video of him. He looks like a midget out there. I just feel like he would get overpowered by larger interior linemen in the NFL.

    Not so sure I would trade up for him anymore, lol.
  5. PSU999

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    Donald isn't getting past the Giants at 12. He fits their defense like a glove.

    If the Cowboys want Donald, they're gonna need to trade up into the Top 11 to leapfrog the Giants.
  6. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    I don't think so. They hurting worse for a offensive tackle
  7. PSU999

    PSU999 Benched

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    Not at all. Will Beatty has a $7.4 million cap hit in 2014 and is penciled in as the 2014 starting LT. Justin Pugh is the starting RT. Charles Brown is the swing OT.

    Giants are set at OT for 2014.

    Not sure why you think they need an offensive tackle.

    If you know anything about Jerry Reese and how the Giants draft, they LOVE pass-rushers. Perry Fewell runs a version of the Tampa 2. Cullen Jenkins is 33 years old and their only 3-technique. Donald would be the BPA and fills a need. Giants aren't passing on him at 12. They need a young 3-technique pass rushing DT.
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  8. Zimmy Lives

    Zimmy Lives Well-Known Member

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    No. One player is not going to make a difference. Dallas needs all their draft picks.
  9. theSHOW

    theSHOW Well-Known Member

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    not going to happen. day 2 picks are really valuable in a deep draft
  10. ABQCOWBOY

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't see the Giants taking Donald. I think they either go OL, TE, WR, CB or perhaps LB. They do need help at DT but they have Patterson and Jenkins who can still be, at least serviceable. The most important player they have is Manning and he can not take many more seasons like the last. He pretty much got the hell beat out of him last year. 39 sacks for a career high in INTs (27) and a career low in QBRT 69.4. They absolutely have to fix that if they want to have any success in both 2014 and long term. The last thing they want is to be trying to replace Eli while still owing his contract. I think they look at Lewan, Martin, Ebron or possibly Evans. If they go D, I think it's either Gilbert or Mosely. This draft is deep at DT. They will be able to get a guy to fit their needs in later rounds. Honestly, I am really starting to think that only the Cowboys might be in the market for Donald that high.

    I think Chicago will like Nix, Jernigan or Hageman better then Donald. They need size in the interior more then they need penetration I think.
  11. JoeyBoy718

    JoeyBoy718 Well-Known Member

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    Our tradeable 7th rounders are worth 2.0 points each. If we packaged them all together (6.0 points), it would be enough to move up 1 spot in the 3rd round. We would need 75 7th-round picks to move up 3 spots in the 1st.
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  12. guag

    guag Right Kind of Guy

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    :p Seems like I overestimated the value of 7th round picks, haha.
  13. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    I'd consider using a 5th to get him, but that's only if Barr's also gone. I also think there's a decent chance the Bears go a different direction and Donald is there, anyway.
  14. waving monkey

    waving monkey Well-Known Member

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    If the research shows a high percentage the Bears going another direction I agree.
  15. EGG

    EGG Well-Known Member

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    If Marinelli is in love with the guy I'd say yes, otherwise a definite no,,, this team needs too many players to lose mid round draft picks.
  16. Gaede

    Gaede Well-Known Member

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    I'd wait. I think he'll fall to us. If he doesn't, he's not gonna fix our defense anyways, so life goes on.
  17. PSU999

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    Giants don't need Lewan or Martin. They have their starting LT (Beatty), starting RT (Pugh), and backup swing OT (Brown). They signed guards Geoff Schwartz and John Jerry in the offseason. They signed center JD Walton. They fixed their OL through free agency, and will address depth in FA.

    Evans will go 7 to the Bucs and Ebron will go 9 to the Bills. Highly unlikely either will be there at 12.

    There is zero chance the Giants pick Gilbert or Mosley. They are 6 deep at corner with DRC, Prince, Thurmond, McBride, Bowman, and Hosley. Corner is literally their deepest position. Why would they take Gilbert? They're not taking Mosley either. They have Jon Beason at MLB and have Jaquian Williams and Spencer Paysinger splitting reps at WILL.

    Giants have a major need at pass-rush. Their pass-rush was one of the league's worst last season. Patterson is a backup 1-technique to Jon Hankins. Jenkins is 33 years old and the ONLY interior pass-rusher they have. They need a young 3-technique to rotate with Jenkins. Insert Donald.
  18. ABQcowboyJR

    ABQcowboyJR Well-Known Member

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    I fear that the Gnats are gonna take Lewan. He is gonna be one nasty son-of-a-...... for a long time and we are gonna have to see him twice a year
  19. PSU999

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    You don't have to worry about the Giants taking Lewan because it's not going to happen. Giants signed Will Beatty to a 5 year, $37.5 million deal last offseason. He has a $7.4 million cap hit this season. In other words, he's the starting LT. Giants want Pugh to continue to develop at RT.

    There is no need for Lewan.
  20. AsthmaField

    AsthmaField Outta bounds

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    To me, this is the key. If Marinelli and the Dallas scouts think that Donald is that rare and would be that exceptional in our defense, then I think they should make sure they get him. If they feel like he is better than Jernigan but not that much better then they shouldn't move up.

    If I had to guess, I think they feel like he is worth a small move up, but really who knows.

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