Would you trade up for OU's Peterson?

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by ABQCOWBOY, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. EGG

    EGG Well-Known Member

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    I'm an Okie,,, Sooner Fan thru and thru,,, While I love the power and excitement Peterson brings, his lack of "vision" or inability to pick out suitable running lanes drives me to distraction. Hopefully this year he will improve on that deficiency,,, if he does, he will be one HELL of an NFL RB. I wouldn't hesitate to move up and draft him.

    I've seen the Sooner spring-game this year and it looks like he will be catching a lot of passes to get him into the open-field,,, I've got to say that I was pretty impressed at his pass catching, it looked effortless!
  2. Qwickdraw

    Qwickdraw Benched

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    He's worth alot...
    but he'll easily be the 1st pick off the board making him extremely expensive.

    Unless of course we tank the whole season to get him.
  3. jimmy40

    jimmy40 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I would.
  4. lane

    lane The Chairman

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    after we win the superbowl this year we will not be in position to get this bad mother..........

    but we will have a lombardi trophy.

    if we don't win the superbowl however........
    we must do whatever we can to land either quinn or peterson..
  5. Hiero

    Hiero New Member

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    ya, let's maybe step back into reality and out of maddenworld. It would probably take like 3 first rders to trade up to top 1 or 2 or 3 picks. so ya obviously this isnt happening.:banghead:
  6. Verdict

    Verdict Well-Known Member

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    I will concede that if Adrian Peterson is the overall number one selection that trading up would be very prohibitive, assuming arguendo, that the Cowboys have any success at all this year. According to one value chart, the point value of the top 5 picks would be as follows:

    #1: 3000 pts.
    #2: 2600 pts.
    #3: 2400 pts.
    #4: 2200 pts.
    #5: 1900 pts.

    As you can see, if Peterson drops in the draft a few spots, the Cowboys' ability to trade up goes up dramatically.

    If the Cowboys had decent success this year, but didn't reach the Super Bowl (a possibility), their first round pick this year would likely be worth approximately 700 points (#27). It would likely cost at least two first round picks to get into the top 5. It is more likely that the cost would be greater than two first round picks, and would require the Cowboys to part with a player in addition to the two first rounders. I am guessing it would take two first rounders, plus a healthy semi productive Julius Jones to even get close if Peterson was in the top 3 picks. Still, if Peterson lights it up this year, I would make the trade in a heartbeat. If he doesn't light it up, he won't be a top 5 pick as a running back.
  7. illone

    illone New Member

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    Too early to tell on Peterson. He showed flashes of greatness in his freshman year. Flashes of 'sweetness' meets Jim Brown.

    That said let's see how he comes back this season as teams contained him pretty well last season. If he continues to produce a la his freshman year clip he could be a top 5 pick in 2007.
  8. JeffInDC

    JeffInDC Well-Known Member

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    Remember this name come April '07 = Kenny Irons, RB Auburn

    The kid is a beast. If anyone else got a chance to see him play last year, then you know what I am talking about. Really reminds me of Cadillac Williams. And, he basically the same size as Cadillac Williams (5'11", 210).
  9. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    Ron Dayne was a damn good back to,

    there are many players that come out with this Greatness tag,
    the nexty great "enter postion here" and every year we add to sports center top "enter number here" worst draft picks.

    I for one do not wish to trade any picks to go get any one player when there are bound to be jewels in the later rounds, i will proudly keep our 32nd pick and bring some youth to the WR, and LB position. We have enough RB's on the roster so that if JJ cant stay healthy we dont need to go give up and entire draft for one player (H. Walker anyone?)

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Anybody who watched Ron Dayne new he was a mudder at Wisconsin. I understand what your saying but I believe it is a mistake to compare Dayne and Peterson.

    I think the point here is if JJ does not show through this year, as we hope he will, the need for a feature back is previlant. If your contention is that we have plenty of backs, who would they be? If JJ doesn't show, who is the feature back on our roster?
  11. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    The Pats won 2 of there 3 SB rings with who at RB? IMO i dont think we relaly need a big timing expensive feature back. with JJ maybe like coming in on plays or series, and Barber running the ball carrinyg the "load" i think we can be fine, but i just really dont see a need to reach for a RB when there are plenty more in draft
  12. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I like Jones and think he has a lot of talent but he has to be able to endure the season. I don't doubt his injuries but the bottom line is guys who are constantly missing time do not stay in the NFL for long. Hopefully Jones will be able to play a full season and show the production that many of us feel he is capable of

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I have seen Irons play. He has spent a great deal of time on the bench behind some pretty good football players. I would not say he is the same back that Cadillac was. By no means to I believe he is in the same class as Peterson but I do think he has some talent. He had some good games and some bad last year. Good player but not in the same class, IMO.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    If we can believe BP, he is of the opinion that JJ has to be more durable. JJ has had issues staying healthy his first two years in the pros and also while at ND. If he can't stay healthy, that puts the load on Barber. Barber is a good back but he is not a break away back and I don't know that he is an every down back either. He may be but I don't know that he is. If JJ can't stay healthy, that means we need another back. The question is, do you go get the best back out there or do you try and take a guy who is cheaper?
  15. dargonking999

    dargonking999 DKRandom

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    When you have Barber, and Thomson sitting inb your backfield (saying that you got rid of JJ), then i say you go get the cheaper guy, Peterson is a guy that should go where he will be the feature guy and carrying the load pretty much all the time. But since i dont belive in trading up, i just dont want to see us make that move, then if it doesnt work out every cowboys fan will be calling for BP, JJ, and Every person they can find wanting there heads for making such "obvious" bad choice.

    But of course the easy to avoid all this is for JJ to go out there and last a season. :D:D:D
  16. joseephuss

    joseephuss Well-Known Member

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    Julius Jones has proven he can be the guy as far as talent. He has shown good burst, strength, balance and speed. He has had some big games and strong games. He has shown lots of good things. I don't think as far as playing ability that he has to show too much more except in the passing game. He has shown that he is a very good NFL back to this point when he healthy.

    The negative is that he has managed to get injured. That is a pretty big negative.The shoulder injury seemed like a fluke, but it isn't limited to just that. He has been slowed by a few injuries. If he can't overcome that, then he isn't the guy that Dallas needs.

    Adrian Peterson has shown the same thing at OU. Great when healthy, but he has found ways to not be on the field. I think he has more talent than Julius Jones, but it seems like he would be giving Dallas the same player. Good when healthy, but will he be healthy.

    This upcoming season gives both Jones and Peterson a chance to prove if they can stay healthy. I look forward to both proving that they can.

    Peterson is worth trading up to get, but how much you trade to get him will be determined how healthy he stays this season. If the young man can't stay healty in college, he will have a harder time in the pros.
  17. StonetheCrow77

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    Why trade up for a RB (no matter how good he COULD be) when you could basically trade up a few more spots and get Quinn, a potential franchise QB? Dallas needs a young QB worse than a RB...

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    That's the key. Lasting the season. If he can do that, then this discussion is irrelivant. If he can't, then I think we have problems.

    The Pats won championships by committe at RB, if you will but keep in mind, they have been trying to replace Curtis Martin since his departure in 98. They traded for Dillon, they have tried to replace him with lower round picks in almost every draft leading up to this past draft. in 98, they drafted Robert Edwards in the 1st, Chris Floyd in the 3rd and Harold Shaw in the 6th. Edwards really would have been the answer had he not incurred that freak injury. In 99 they drafted Kevin Faulk in the second, in 2000 they drafted JR Redmond in the 3rd and Patrick Bass in the 7th. In 01 they didn't take a back but in 02 they again tried to fill the need with a lower round pick in Antwoine Womack in the 7th. In 03 they tried to get Tony Hollins in the supplemental but lost out to the Texans with a 2nd round pick. In 04 they drafted Cedric Cobb in the 4th. In 05 they took nobody but this past draft, they spent a 1st rounder on Maroney.

    Keep in mind that while they may have used several different backs in there SB run, we used one great back to win ours.

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I completely agree but the premius here is that either Romo or Henson are deemed the long term answer.
  20. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion OU made a mistake last year with Peterson, after the initial injury had they sat him for a game or 2 he would not have had to deal with the nagging injuries all season long. This season will be big for Peterson to show his skills and durability after all OU will feed him the ball often.

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